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Old 06-19-2019, 12:29 PM
BobbyVCP BobbyVCP is offline
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Default T206 Polar Bear and Sovereign set lists

As you all know I run VCP and we track sales of graded cards for over 12 years now. I am going through and editing our T206 sets to get ready for the new site move.

I have noticed that in the Polar Bear and Sovereign sets that there are a lot of missing data points or no sales recorded at all for some cards that are reported to have that back combination. These are by no means rare backs and you would think after 12+ years of tracking sales we would have covered all of them.

So this leads me to wonder or believe do they actually exist?

Here is the list of cards with no sales

Polar Bear

Bill Abstein
Harry Arndt
Johnny Bates
Beals Becker
George Brown Washington
Bill Burns
John Butler
Peter Cassidy
Chappie Charles
Eddie Collins
Birdie Cree
Monte Cross
Bill Dahlen Brooklyn
Bill Dinneen
Wild Bill Donovan Throwing
Jerry Downs
Jean Dubuc
Jack Dunn
Joe Dunn
Lou Fiene Throwing
Art Fletcher
Bob Hall
Jack Hannifan
Topsy Hartsel
Danny Hoffman
Harry Howell Portrait
Miller Huggins Hands At Mouth
Miller Huggins Portrait
George Hunter
Ed Killian Portrait
Otto Knabe
Ed Lennox
Carl Lundgren Kansas City
Bill Malarkey
Rube Marquard Portrait
Doc Marshall
John McAleese
George McBride
Moose McCormick
Pryor McElveen
Jim McGinley
Matty McIntyre Detroit
Fred Mitchell Toronto
Mike Mitchell Cincinnati
Herb Moran Providence
Mike Mowrey
Chief Myers Batting-Correct spell Meyers
Frank Oberlin
Jimmy Phelan
Phil Poland
Bob Rhoades Hands At Chest
Claude Rossman
Boss Schmidt Portrait
Charlie Starr
Jim Stephens
Gabby Street Portrait
Ed Summers
Bill Sweeney Boston
Ira Thomas
Owen Wilson
Heinie Zimmerman



Sovereign

Doc Adkins
Frank Arellanes
Jap Barbeau
Beals Becker
Jack Bliss
Roy Brashear
Roger Bresnahan Batting
Fred Burchell
Chappie Charles
Josh Clark
Jimmy Collins
Monte Cross
Paul Davidson
Frank Delahanty
Ray Demmitt (New York)
Rube Dessau
Gus Dorner
Tom Downey (Fielding)
Kid Elberfeld (Washington, Portrait)
Clyde Engle
Steve Evans
Art Fletcher
John Ganzel
Dolly Gray
Bob Groom
Jack Hayden
Danny Hoffman (St. Louis)
George Hunter
Davy Jones (Detroit)
Red Kleinow (Boston)
Frank LaPorte
Bill Lattimore
Harry Lord
Carl Lundgren (Chicago)
Nick Maddox
Billy Maloney
Doc Marshall
Al Mattern
John McAleese
George McBride
Larry McLean
Clyde Milan
Dots Miller (Pittsburgh)
Molly Miller (Dallas)
Mullen (Mullin)
Red Murray (Batting)
Myers (Batting)
Billy Nattress
Charlie Rhodes
Lou Ritter
Dick Rudolph
George Schirm
Larry Schlafly
Ossee Schreck
Spike Shannon
Bud Sharpe
Smith (Frank, Chicago & Boston)
Charlie Starr
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Old 06-19-2019, 12:40 PM
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Old 06-19-2019, 03:52 PM
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None of those Polar Bears exist.
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COMPLETE T206 BACK SUBSETS
Old Mill Southern Leagues - Black Ink 48/48
Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 30 Full Color "No Prints" 28/28
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Polar Bear 245/250
Sovereign 460 50/52
Sweet Caporal 150 Factory 649 Overprint 31/34
Piedmont 350 "Elite 11" 9/11

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Old 06-19-2019, 03:54 PM
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I can't speak to all of them but I know a vast majority of those do not exist in the backs.

Example Monte Cross outside of Piedmont and Sweet Cap only comes in Tolstoi.
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Old 06-19-2019, 04:37 PM
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Default SOVEREIGN No Prints

Quote:
Originally Posted by BobbyVCP View Post
As you all know I run VCP and we track sales of graded cards for over 12 years now. I am going through and editing our T206 sets to get ready for the new site move.

I have noticed that in the Polar Bear and Sovereign sets that there are a lot of missing data points or no sales recorded at all for some cards that are reported to have that back combination. These are by no means rare backs and you would think after 12+ years of tracking sales we would have covered all of them.

So this leads me to wonder or believe do they actually exist?



Sovereign

Doc Adkins
Frank Arellanes
Jap Barbeau
Beals Becker
Jack Bliss
Roy Brashear
Roger Bresnahan Batting
Fred Burchell
Chappie Charles
Josh Clark
Jimmy Collins
Monte Cross
Paul Davidson
Frank Delahanty
Ray Demmitt (New York)
Rube Dessau
Gus Dorner
Tom Downey (Fielding)
Kid Elberfeld (Washington, Portrait)
Clyde Engle
Steve Evans
Art Fletcher
John Ganzel
Dolly Gray
Bob Groom
Jack Hayden
Danny Hoffman (St. Louis)
George Hunter
Davy Jones (Detroit)
Red Kleinow (Boston)
Frank LaPorte
Bill Lattimore
Harry Lord
Carl Lundgren (Chicago)
Nick Maddox
Billy Maloney
Doc Marshall
Al Mattern
John McAleese
George McBride
Larry McLean
Clyde Milan
Dots Miller (Pittsburgh)
Molly Miller (Dallas)
Mullen (Mullin)
Red Murray (Batting)
Myers (Batting)
Billy Nattress
Charlie Rhodes
Lou Ritter
Dick Rudolph
George Schirm
Larry Schlafly
Ossee Schreck
Spike Shannon
Bud Sharpe
Smith (Frank, Chicago & Boston)
Charlie Starr

Hi Bobby

Here is my list of confirmed NO PRINTS (67 subjects) in the SOVEREIGN set. I have a complete (all) SOVEREIGN set.
Compare this list with yours...…

Abstein
Adkins
Arrellanes
Barbeau
Barger
Becker
Bliss
Brashear
Bresnahan (bat)
Burchell
Charles
Clark
Clymer
Collins (Minn.)
Cross
Davidson
Delehanty (Louisville)
Demmitt (New York American)
Dessau
Dorner

Downey (fielding)
Elberfeld (portrait-Washington)
Engle
Evans
Fletcher
Freeman
Ganzel
Graham (St Louis AL)
Gray
Groom
Hayden
Hoffman (St Louis AL)
Hunter
Jones (portrait Detroit)
Kleinow (Boston)
La Porte
Lattimore
Lord
Lundgren (Kansas City)
Maddox

Maloney
Marshall
Mattern
McAleese
McBride
McElveen
McLean
Milan
Miller (Pittsburg)
Mullen (portrait)
Murray (bat)
Myers (bat)
Nattress
Phillippe
Puttman
Rhodes
Ritter
Rudolph
Schirm
Schlafly

Schreck
Shannon
Sharpe
Smith (Chicago & Boston)
Snodgrass (bat)
Starr
Willett


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