It's the most wonderful time of the year. Cobb/Edwards auction time!

[Leon]

Evidently there is at least one other person that thinks this Frankenstein card is real. I got this message this morning from a guy named Mark..

Leon,
After reading comments made by your board members concerning the newest Honus Wagner Auction I must respectfully decline to join that board.
I want to be part of a board that has a real knowledge about card collecting. A board that uses common sense thinking not some crazy notions that card grading services are the be all to end all.
Leon, card grading services were not around when cards such as a Honus Wagner were printed so they have no clue who printed them and they offer no scientific evidence to disprove the cards validity .
Thanks.





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[barrysloate]

I agree with him Leon. He should be a part of a different board.

[Wite3]

I wonder if "Mark" has the same email address as Ken Krause.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Wite3

I wonder if "Mark" has the same email address as Ken Krause.

His email message had the last name of Spxxxx, and the first part of his email address is

visitingteam62@xxxxxxxx



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[barrysloate]

I think the guy is a troll. There wasn't one thing in his email that made any sense.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

I think the guy is a troll. There wasn't one thing in his email that made any sense.

Agreed. Something's not right there.

[z28jd]

Let us assume for a second that the email is real. It is definitely a bullet dodged by the board, because if he thinks that card is real, is that really someone you would want on the board, possibly using the BST? Looks like this thread did some good for the community...that was of course going under the scenario that the email was legit. Carry on.

BTW, I asked Krause politely to provide scans of the Honus Wagner card they were auctioning off for $300,000 because all I saw on the listing was a $2 reprint and there was no way I'd bid without seeing the real card first. I got no answer, so I'm not doing any bidding with them ever if that is the kind of customer service they provide.

[kcohen]

Originally Posted by Leon

Evidently there is at least one other person that thinks this Frankenstein card is real. I got this message this morning from a guy named Mark..

Leon,
After reading comments made by your board members concerning the newest Honus Wagner Auction I must respectfully decline to join that board.
I want to be part of a board that has a real knowledge about card collecting. A board that uses common sense thinking not some crazy notions that card grading services are the be all to end all.
Leon, card grading services were not around when cards such as a Honus Wagner were printed so they have no clue who printed them and they offer no scientific evidence to disprove the cards validity .
Thanks.

Where does this guy get the idea that there is some crazy notion on this forum that TPGs are the be all and end all? Must never have read any of DM's posts.

In another vein, can't tell you how tough it is for me to get my arms around imagining what it would be like to hear you say "oy vey" with your Texas accent.

Maybe hearing Kinky Friedman say it would give me an idea.

[thecatspajamas]

Originally Posted by Leon

Evidently there is at least one other person that thinks this Frankenstein card is real. I got this message this morning from a guy named Mark..

Leon,
After reading comments made by your board members concerning the newest Honus Wagner Auction I must respectfully decline to join that board.
I want to be part of a board that has a real knowledge about card collecting. A board that uses common sense thinking not some crazy notions that card grading services are the be all to end all.
Leon, card grading services were not around when cards such as a Honus Wagner were printed so they have no clue who printed them and they offer no scientific evidence to disprove the cards validity .
Thanks.

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Sounds very similar to what "goldenarm9" posted as a follow-up comment to the original article that the op linked to:

Goldenarm9
I read that garbage and got a laugh out of it. What you boys do not have
is common sense ...was PSA around when that card or any of them was
printed, i think not , so tell us what printing company printed that
card and what industry standards are PSA supposed to be using to try to
discount that card?
It looks like Cobb-Edwards got the last laugh.

Just more of the age-old tactic of discrediting your accuser rather than backing up your own claim. Why bother making a reasonable argument to prove your point when you can just call your opponent a "dummy" and walk off with a smug look on your face?

[HRBAKER]

Yeah, this board is really "in the bag" for TPG.

[uffda51]

"Scientific evidence?" Grading services?

Helen Keller would know that the card is a fake.

[z28jd]

I wish they would try the scientific study made popular by Sesame Street called "Which one of these things is not like the other". I know T206 cards are nearly impossible to find, but maybe someone could offer up 99 real ones and put their Honus Waldo Wagner in the middle and try to find the one that doesn't look like the others.

[Leon]

Here is the guys last email to me from yesterday...

"I would quit drinking the PSA kook-aid ...who exactly at any of the card grading services are 100 years old and was around when the T-206 card went to print and has knowledge of how it was printed?"


Sounds like a strong argument to me!!




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[z28jd]

It is a good argument! So basically none of them can be considered real, including the Cobb/Edwards, and they are all worthless until PSA hires someone who is 112 and remembers pulling these from a pack. Now that it's settled, please bid accordingly on their auction.

[barrysloate]

Originally Posted by Leon

Here is the guys last email to me from yesterday...

"I would quit drinking the PSA kook-aid ...who exactly at any of the card grading services are 100 years old and was around when the T-206 card went to print and has knowledge of how it was printed?"


Sounds like a strong argument to me!!




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So according to this guy, there is no verifiable way to authenticate any baseball card. In other words, if it happened before you were born, and you weren't there to witness it, then there is no possible way you can know for sure whether or not it is real.