I hate to out an auction but....

[Pat R]

Talk about Rocky Mountain high

https://www.ebay.com/itm/36444513253...Bk9SR_7coP_GYg

[ClementeFanOh]

Pat- nothing to hate about the truth. Good Heavens…Trent King

[G1911]

The Deckle Edge Wills for $1,000 he claims is autographed is even worse for its combination of insane pricing and fraudulent claims.

[mrreality68]

Does it really surprise any of us.
It’s the trendy thing to do on eBay

[DocScoot]

I always wonder what the end game is with these auctions. Are there drunk late night bidders on these items? Is there some benefit to having insanely inflated sales posts up? Is it just delusional people, or some sort of joke? Also seems to be a trend with these sellers to list all sorts of cards as "error" cards for nutty prices. It's pretty prevalent with certain cards actually, the fake "error" card market.

[Snapolit1]

I've always assumed some of these are people in bad financial straits throwing up a desperate Hail Mary pass. But who knows.

[BobbyStrawberry]

But it's 112 years old!

[Howe’s Hunter]

Thought $123.67 was more in line with reality.

[53toppscollector]

if ebay charged a fee (or higher fee) for every single auction run, I think people might do less of this. Its so frustrating seeing cards listed for 10x what they are actually worth pop up every week, over and over again, in my ebay searches/alerts.

[raulus]

My father in law likes to muse about opening a hamburger stand and selling a million dollar hamburger. Just have to sell one!

If you find eBay sellers whose listings vex you to no end, you can always block them so they don’t show up in your search listings.

[CW]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

But it's 112 years old!

HA! Beat me to it. Well played.

112!!!

[jfkheat]

He has a great deal on a Donruss Griffey rookie.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/36444380201...4AAOSwKGlk6X9P

[iwantitiwinit]

His strategy seems very successful. Zero sales.

[ValKehl]

The seller has zero feedbacks.

[The Detroit Collector]

at least the condition can justify the price.

[cubman1941]

Just for fun I put a watch on it to see if anyone really will bid on it.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by Howe’s Hunter

Thought $123.67 was more in line with reality.

Just curious. Was it automatically rejected or did it actually get sent to the seller who then rejected it?

[Howe’s Hunter]

Originally Posted by jayshum

Just curious. Was it automatically rejected or did it actually get sent to the seller who then rejected it?

Auto rejected.

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by Howe’s Hunter

Auto rejected.

It looks like it was instead Auto Ejected (ejected from a vehicle...the way all prewar cards should appear, in my opinion).

Brian

[Buythatcard]

He has the Griffey 1989 Donruss as a BIN for $10,000. I must be doing something wrong because I have the same card listed for 99 cents.

[cubman1941]

But his is in a top loader!!

Originally Posted by Buythatcard

He has the Griffey 1989 Donruss as a BIN for $10,000. I must be doing something wrong because I have the same card listed for 99 cents.

[Howe’s Hunter]

Originally Posted by cubman1941

But his is in a top loader!!

The card is worth .99. The vintage top loader is worth $9,999.01.

[inceptus]

I started buffing up my SGC 2 Hummel to send to Goldin when I saw this auction last night…


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[darkhorse9]

At least the authenticity with be guaranteed. That's a load off my mind.

[Ronnie73]

Jay Kaplan has the same card in a PSA 1.5 for $289.99 so Jay better raise his price on this rare 112 year old card. I don't think he realizes what he actually has. Luckily, I have a PSA 2 already, and an American Beauty 460, Polar Bear, and a Sovereign 460. That Old Mill is a nightmare to get.

[DocScoot]

Wow, honestly I'm surprised. I can see listing an item for an absurd price in the hopes that someone accidentally drunk-buys, but still entertaining real offers would make sense. I remain confused about these sorts of listings. They don't bother me except when it's a relatively rare card I'm actually hunting, and it just sits on eBay for a year or more at some absurd price. I'm in that situation now, hunting a card that's listed for about 8 times what they actually sell for. I've even messaged the seller a couple times begging him to sell it to me for fair market value. Never even bothered replying to me. Card's just been sitting there well over a year now.

Originally Posted by Howe’s Hunter

Auto rejected.

[cubman1941]

Have you tried a WTB on this site? Had some success.

Originally Posted by DocScoot

Wow, honestly I'm surprised. I can see listing an item for an absurd price in the hopes that someone accidentally drunk-buys, but still entertaining real offers would make sense. I remain confused about these sorts of listings. They don't bother me except when it's a relatively rare card I'm actually hunting, and it just sits on eBay for a year or more at some absurd price. I'm in that situation now, hunting a card that's listed for about 8 times what they actually sell for. I've even messaged the seller a couple times begging him to sell it to me for fair market value. Never even bothered replying to me. Card's just been sitting there well over a year now.

[cubman1941]

Get your bids in, price has dropped to only $2000.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by DocScoot

. They don't bother me except when it's a relatively rare card I'm actually hunting, and it just sits on eBay for a year or more at some absurd price. I'm in that situation now, hunting a card that's listed for about 8 times what they actually sell for. I've even messaged the seller a couple times begging him to sell it to me for fair market value. Never even bothered replying to me. Card's just been sitting there well over a year now.

Once upon a time, probably about 5 years ago, I would’ve agreed with you wholeheartedly.

Of course, some of our friends around here are fond of reminding us that selling cardboard is not an eleemosynary activity, so our hopes and dreams as buyers don’t really enter into the seller’s calculus in any meaningful fashion.

I’ve also grown to have a bit more of an appreciation that for really rare stuff, particularly stuff that hasn’t come to market in the last 5 or 10 years, no one really knows what the market is today. I’ve often found myself rejecting a sellers price, and waiting a few years for another one to come to auction. Except when it finally comes to auction, the other 10 guys who have been coveting it and have rejected the BIN price as absurd all pile in to the bidding. Next thing you know, we’ve managed to bid it up into the same ballpark, sometimes even higher, simply because we’re unwilling to let that absurd BIN seller get his way.

When it comes to stuff that rare, my experience is that you have a few options:

1) pay the man, and just be glad it’s not more;
2) hope another one comes onto the market someday, and at a price that is more pleasing to you (however, see above cautionary tale); or
3) decide you really never wanted it anyway.

Of course, I have several difficult to find items that I have listed on eBay with absurdly high asking prices, some of which have been waiting for years for the right buyer to come along. So you might even be vexed by me personally.

Now, if I were selling commonplace junk-era wax for $10k when it sells every day for pennies, I suppose that’s another scenario entirely. But a guy can dream!

[cubman1941]

No takers but he re-listed for $2000 again

[cubman1941]

Last post on this one - I have been watching just to see - noticed one thing today. Only $5.10 to ship a $2000-$10,000 card.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by cubman1941

Last post on this one - I have been watching just to see - noticed one thing today. Only $5.10 to ship a $2000-$10,000 card.

The only thing we love around here better than low cost shipping is quick shipping!

[jakebeckleyoldeagleeye]

It doesn't hurt to ask but the seller is just a buffoon.

[cubman1941]

I am not sure what you would call him!

[toledo_mudhen]

eleemosynary - ?

[Kutcher55]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

I've always assumed some of these are people in bad financial straits throwing up a desperate Hail Mary pass. But who knows.

+1. Generally people don’t try to rip others off unless they are desperate and/or see no other financial means of surviving. Some of these scammers have got to be succeeding though. And there are a few out there who seriously get off on this stuff. One in particular comes to mind. Just shows you what a dog eat dog world it can be.

I do think eBay could do a considerably better job policing these listings but apparently they decided it is bad for business to regulate.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by toledo_mudhen

eleemosynary - ?

Precisely!

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by toledo_mudhen

eleemosynary - ?

Example of the word used in a sentence:


Eleemosynary, my dear Watson.


Brian

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by Kutcher55

I do think eBay could do a considerably better job policing these listings but apparently they decided it is bad for business to regulate.

eBay does not care in the least, to put it mildly. Their model since the 1990's now has been to sponsor this type of stuff with minimal and sometimes zero intervention. It's ludicrous this far into the 21st century that not only are these listings permitted to stand, but eBay will go so far as to advertise cards like this and $100K Fleer Jose Uribe cards in my Facebook feed. Really?

If they cared about collectibles at all as a true "category", they would have hired professionals who know something about cards in this case to manage it - decades ago. But this is not their model, and I doubt it ever will be. Gimmicks like (re-) "authenticating" cards that are already in PSA and SGC holders are just window dressing to make it appear as if they care somewhat. I suppose it does at least marginally cut down somewhat on fraud at a large scale, but to the original point - some of the stuff that does not pass the test should never have been allowed to be listed in the first place.