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Old 09-11-2017, 10:09 PM
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Beckett does do a good job grading vintage cards, but the problem is that they have a small market share. They are popular when it comes to modern cards though. Their holder is pretty secure and you need a sledgehammer to break it.
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I have picked up some nice vintage BVG cards over the years. Buying the card and not the holder, really applies. The perception BVG is inferior to PSA and SGC works well for me.
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I have picked up some nice vintage BVG cards over the years. Buying the card and not the holder, really applies. The perception BVG is inferior to PSA and SGC works well for me.
Yep! You got that right. I've watched this insanity spread over the past few years. Also the repeated resubmissions puzzle me. Is it really that complicated?
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I don't care about resale. PSA had gone downhill imo.
The market disagrees with you.
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Beckett does do a good job grading vintage cards, but the problem is that they have a small market share. They are popular when it comes to modern cards though. Their holder is pretty secure and you need a sledgehammer to break it.
You think they are small, you should look at GAI.....talk about the collapse of a good thing.
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If you have a valuable card and it is not PSA or SGC graded I will probably suspect you sent it to another company for a reason. Or went to PSA and didn't like what you heard. I realize that may be completely irrational and a bias but I suspect I am not the only one who feels that way.

Frankly I like how SGC looks. Like a lot of other people.
This spot on.

I agree with Robert's comments too. The market, for the most part, loves PSA and will bring the money the others don't.
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Beckett does do a good job grading vintage cards, but the problem is that they have a small market share. They are popular when it comes to modern cards though. Their holder is pretty secure and you need a sledgehammer to break it.



...yeah but sometimes you have to hold their hand and then re-submit providing more information which one would think they would already have somewhere in their specs library.....if you famously provide large holders and have the word "vintage" in your name , people expect you to identify large vintage sportscards...this incident was years ago , so I presume by now they are more proficient with Dizzy Dean Metropolitan Studios Premiums that were drawn on by some kid back in 1931 ;( really good job too )

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Andy Broome is their vintage guy and he worked at PSA as a grader at one time. I know from the vintage I've submitted to them the grades are accurate and/or maybe even slightly conservative.

I had a 1948 Leaf - Jackie Robinson that was a BVG 4.5 and every single person who saw the card said it looked at least a full point better than that.

Obviously with the inherent bias in the industry, you're not going to get maximum possible value for the card, but there is definitely inconsistency that exists with PSA and how they view certain aspects of cards - namely centering.
As far as I know, Andy never worked for PSA. I think he was working for a different TPG when he came to Beckett.
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Mixed bag.

Their holder is insane--Fort Knox compared to the others.

The card condom on every card can make it difficult to view and scan as compared to other services.

Grading is inconsistently consistent. They are less adverse to minor damage than PSA. A card with a corner ding that would get a 4 from PSA will get a 6-6.5 from BVG. The reality of the grade IMO is somewhere in between.

The subgrades for higher grade items are interesting in that they give you some idea of what the graders focused on.



The branding is very confusing. BVG, BCCG, and now BVA too.

The new black label for their pristine grade is nice idea



I am waiting for the one that goes to 11.
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SCD Authentic had a grade of 11.
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