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Old 04-13-2019, 09:52 PM
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Has anyone resubmitted a card (in holder) and had it bumped from PSA 8 to a PSA 9? I couldn't find any other threads on this specific topic from the search engine here.
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Old 04-13-2019, 10:23 PM
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No, the only experience I've had is cracking it first. It's probably extremely rare to get a bump up while in the holder.
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Old 04-13-2019, 11:12 PM
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I have heard of it happening, even a 9 to a 10 a few times. I have never had any luck personally.
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Old 04-14-2019, 03:37 AM
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I have on a number of occasions. Card needs to clearly be under graded to have best success rate.
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Old 04-14-2019, 05:52 AM
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Yes, it happens. Even on very expensive cards. One of the guys on the PSA message board just increased a Jim Brown rookie from an 8 to 8.5:
https://forums.collectors.com/discus...m-brown-rookie

I had a Gold Classic Jeter /9500 that I sent in that got a 9. Sold it and forgot to remove it from my inventory. Noticed that when I spotted it next, it had been upgraded to a 10.

Some of the 1993 SP Jeters that are now 10s were once 9s.
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Old 04-14-2019, 08:36 AM
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I have had several cards bump from an 8 to a 9. Here is my most recent one the Clemente along with a couple of others.

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I have had several cards bump from an 8 to a 9.
Did you crack out the Clemente before resubmitting?
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They both have the same cert numbers, so no.
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Did you crack out the Clemente before resubmitting?
Nope. As Swarmee stated the cert # stayed the same.
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Old 04-14-2019, 10:34 AM
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I have had several cards bump from an 8 to a 9. Here is my most recent one the Clemente along with a couple of others.
Was there anything specifically on the Clemente that caused you to reassess?
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Was there anything specifically on the Clemente that caused you to reassess?
When I purchased the Clemente (Ebay) I felt it was a strong 8 based on centering. I was thinking a .5 bump based on the centering and corners once I got it in hand. For me the corners need to have 3 very nice looking to even have a shot at a full bump from 8-9.

My criteria when looking at an 8 and determining if it has shot to bump is the following

1) 3 of the 4 corners have to be strong for the grade and 1 corner appropriate for an 8

2). Centering is the # 1 thing they look for as far as a .5 bump is concerned

3). Registration and over picture quality

For me to submit for review I need to have at least 2 out of the 3 apply to the card.
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Curious about the process to do this. In person at a show or send in to PSA? Do you crack it out or does PSA do It? Cost?
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Old 04-14-2019, 08:55 PM
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For a "REVIEW" submission, you send the card in the original holder to PSA (either mail or at show) and they look at the card inside the holder. If the card is awarded a higher grade, they crack it out and put it in a new holder. If it doesn't, presuming you listed the current grade +0.5 as the minimum you would accept for the new grade, you get it back in the original slab.

They will also do a "CROSSOVER" submission which is a card still in another company's slab with the same rules: you set the minimum you'd accept; if it reaches that grade, they will crack it and put it in their holder. Otherwise, you get it back just like it was when you sent it.

Cost is the same price as to grade it raw, so whatever service level the card needs based on your declared value, presuming it is not way outside the actual market value.
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Curious about the process to do this. In person at a show or send in to PSA? Do you crack it out or does PSA do It? Cost?
As far as cost goes I send these in on my yearly renewal which consists of 15 free vouchers (Platinum $249.00). The past couple of years have sent them in for review in their original holder and have had some very good success. I have cracked them out before and had good results as well but have not done that recently. I would certainly crack one out and re-sub if it came back the same and I really felt it deserved a bump.

Some will say the best way to get a bump is to crack it out and re-sub it. I used to do that all the time and then as the holders got better it was more difficult to crack them out so I decided to go ahead and submit them for review in their original holder. I have found I have just as good of results by submitting for review versus cracking and re-subbing.

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Old 04-14-2019, 10:01 PM
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Do you pay if they do not give it a bump?
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Old 04-14-2019, 10:26 PM
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Do you pay if they do not give it a bump?
Yes, you pay for the review regardless if it gets a bump.
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Old 04-14-2019, 10:31 PM
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Old 04-14-2019, 11:04 PM
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Has anyone resubmitted a card (in holder) and had it bumped from PSA 8 to a PSA 9? I couldn't find any other threads on this specific topic from the search engine here.
If you are planning oin trying to get an upgrade, I suggest you have Dmitri Young make the submission for you.

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Old 04-14-2019, 11:31 PM
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Some of the 1993 SP Jeters that are now 10s were once 9s.

I’ve kept an eye on the Jeter 1993 SP and if 9s did become 10s, it wasn’t in the past 11 months. The pop at PSA is still 22, as it was when I started this thread last May:

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Old 04-15-2019, 01:16 AM
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As far as cost goes I send these in on my yearly renewal which consists of 15 free vouchers (Platinum $249.00)...
Do those vouchers cover all levels? The card I'm considering is $75 fee, a la carte
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Old 04-15-2019, 05:56 AM
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The only time the vouchers can be used for higher levels is for on-site submission at the National. Last year I think you could use the 15-count voucher to get like 9 grades on site for up to $2000 or so declared value. So it was well worth it if you could get to the National.
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Old 04-15-2019, 03:50 PM
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Has anyone resubmitted a card (in holder) and had it bumped from PSA 8 to a PSA 9? I couldn't find any other threads on this specific topic from the search engine here.
I consider myself a wiley old veteran when it comes to reviews and c/o's. With oodles of high grade (some very pack fresh) 50's and 60's Topps cards, I have experienced the entire gamut of PSA grading circles. Via review, I have had a few 8's go to 9's and even one or two 9's to 10's. Usually they do not bump and if they do, 98% = .5 pt. That said, nothing compares to the good old fashioned c/o. Generally speaking, if you find some decent mid grades with a corner hit, it can easily become an 8, 9, or sometimes 10. Of course there is an occasional downgrade, but in my experience, the good outweighs the bad 8X min. Additionally, I have had a good deal of success with Becket c/o's and a good deal of NO success with SGC c/o's. Big surprise.
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