ebay police: Raw original t206 Wagner?

[hunterdutchess]

Raw Honus Wagner listed as a original on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/fair-condition-t...item43a148d338

Your thoughts?

[grandslamcardscria]

Originally Posted by hunterdutchess

Raw Honus Wagner listed as a original on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/fair-condition-t...item43a148d338

Your thoughts?

The flip says its not authentic or at least questionable at best... Stay far away would be the best advice.

[Doug]

Originally Posted by grandslamcardscria

The flip says its not authentic or at least questionable at best... Stay far away would be the best advice.

Yeah, I'm not sure how he's selling it as authentic when he has a PSA label that says "? AUTHTCT" on it, but I didn't even notice the question mark at first so I almost thought "AUTHTCT" was PSA talk for authentic. It just looks like the typical mangled reprint that someone is trying to pass off as real. Considering the guy has a feedback of 7, the picture is lousy, there's no picture of the back and even PSA thinks it's questionable I'd stay away too.

[ctownboy]

Look, if the guy had an authentic T206 Honus Wagner graded by PSA, I hardly think he would be selling it on eBay and if he was, I don't think the high bid would be only $69 dollars.

Now if this were Heinie Wagner.....

David

[Section103]

If Im not mistaken, the "? Authenticity" is PSA's polite way of saying "Im not saying this is a fake, but it IS a fake."

[uffda51]

Nice photo. Clears up any possible questions - not.

[joeadcock]

I understood that designation ?authentic by PSA means it is not real.

[fkw]

At least the 20th time Ive seen someone use the PSA flip to sell a fake.

Scammers are going to keep on doing this until PSA pulls their heads out.... and fixes the damn abbreviation, with a big "NOT" instead of "?".
Many a newbie have gotten confused on it.

[buymycards]

I reported the item to ebay, but the listing is still active. I contacted the seller, and he sent me a rambling message with no punctuation and numerous spelling errors that included that included threats.

He did convince me that this card is real, and I plan on bidding at least $75 on this authentic Wagner.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by fkw

At least the 20th time Ive seen someone use the PSA flip to sell a fake.

I am not trying to excuse the seller in any way, but some of the responsibility has to fall back on PSA. The card is either real or fake - period. PSA shouldn't list "? AUTHENTICITY" on their flips. If it is a fake, then the flip should say such. If PSA can't tell the difference, they shouldn't be grading cards. The "? AUTHENTICITY" crap leaves room for hope in the mind of the poor sap who buys it.

[teetwoohsix]

I'm no expert on PSA flips but this guy is really going out of his way to cover up the top of the flip where it says "PSA" with a piece of newspaper or something...........run FAST!!!

Clayton

[White Borders]

$16.95 for shipping is outrageous!

[mybuddyinc]

The Penny Saver as a back drop knida' says it all

[Doug]

It's also amusing that his description is just a paragraph from Wikipedia about other Wagner cards that have sold and has nothing to do with whatever that card is that he's trying to sell.

[Doug]

Originally Posted by buymycards

I reported the item to ebay, but the listing is still active. I contacted the seller, and he sent me a rambling message with no punctuation and numerous spelling errors that included that included threats.

He did convince me that this card is real, and I plan on bidding at least $75 on this authentic Wagner.

Why is it that everyone that thinks they are selling real Wagners on eBay communicates via rambling, threatening messages with no punctuation and multiple spelling errors?

[brickyardkennedy]

"Why is it that everyone that thinks they are selling real Wagners on eBay communicates via rambling, threatening messages with no punctuation and multiple spelling errors?"

Totally inadequate educational system, in American prisons.

[Doug]

Originally Posted by brickyardkennedy

Totally inadequate educational system, in American prisons.

More than likely. God forbid people in prison be denied internet access.

[Idiottax]

I'm most impressed that 80% of a card qualifies as deserving of a fair grade. I wonder how much less Honus would need to be part of the card to get it called a poor.

[Gary Dunaier]

Originally Posted by ctownboy

Look, if the guy had an authentic T206 Honus Wagner graded by PSA, I hardly think he would be selling it on eBay and if he was, I don't think the high bid would be only $69 dollars.

It sold for $1,704.00. 44 bids among 12 bidders.

[Vol]

Originally Posted by Gary Dunaier

It sold for $1,704.00. 44 bids among 12 bidders.

Amazing. I cant believe that. I sent him a message just for kicks myself.

He was not a nice fella and didnt have any answers to my questions!

[GrayGhost]

Seriously, this HAS to be a joke. Why would people bid on this crap? I love the "question" down below and his completely irrelevant answer to anything. Boy, its almost as much fun to search the bay for crooked sellers/idiot buyers, as it is the Roach's auctions.

[bh3443]

What ever happened to the "questionable Wagner that won't go away?"
The one that got all the media coverage and the 2 owners refused to grade it and all kinds of drama with the story! Just wondering if anyone can enlighten me on the subject. Thanks, Bill

[judsonhamlin]

Since the "winning" bidder actually had a feedback number higher than 1, it wasn't "ibidonfakes" or someone trying to submarine the scammer. Too bad - that leaves shills and fools as the class of bidders.