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Old 03-19-2009, 03:51 PM
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Posted By: Matt

How does everyone feel about using software to improve scan quality/resolution? When I scan cards in, I always make sure that any settings that would affect sharpness/color/contrast are not engaged but I have noticed that many dealers use some of the features in photo software to enhance images of their cards. How do others feel about this practice? Are some enhancements OK but others not?




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Posted By: Steve F

I really like what Wonka did to Barry's images!

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Posted By: davidcycleback

I use a digital camera, and sometimes the original unaltered pic makes the item look different than the item I have in front of me-- darker, lighter, different color tint, etc. Scanners may be more accurate.

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You know Steve, I looked an awful lot like Brad Pitt before Wonka touched up those photos!

Matt- one of the things I sell on ebay are large cents, which are early American copper pennies. Because they are so dark, they are almost impossible to scan. If I don't enhance the pictures, all you really see is a brown disc without any detail. So in order to show them, we always lighten the picture quite a bit, and then the details come out. You may not have the exact same problem with a baseball card, but my point is sometimes there is a valid reason to do it.

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Posted By: Tim

If its done to better show the condition of the card then I dont have a problem with it.

If its done to make the card appear in better condition than it is, I have a big problem with that.

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Posted By: scott brockelman

Don't let the EAC guys catch you calling them "Pennies" you might be shot. As you know pennies are from Great Britain. happy.gif

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Posted By: barrysloate

Good point Scott- I am careful to call them large cents.

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Posted By: Laura

IMO, if a seller adjusts the color or contrast of a scan in order to make what he sees on his screen more closely match the card itself, then he is doing a good thing for potential buyers.

Scanners can add or subtract all sorts of things: add in noise or a color cast, subtract details or contrast. To adjust the photo in those instances seems like responsible seller behavior (and I do such myself.)

But to manipulate an image so as to hide problems or improve details such as condition is a big no-no in my book. I figure my buyers want clean, clear images where they can see any possible issues. This both protects me as a buyer, and lets them know exactly what they are getting.

One caveat: your screen and my screen may show an image differently. The majority of people with scanners have not calibrated their screen to their input/output, and a seller has no way to ensure that what they see on their screen will match what a buyer sees on theirs. So there's always going to be room for variation.

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Posted By: Mike Garcia

Thanks for the tip on screen variation ( poster vs. viewer ) ; ummm , can anyone calibrate that input/output feature/function ? Where is it located ? Thanks , regards , Mike

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Posted By: Anonymous

"How does everyone feel about using software to improve scan quality/resolution?"

If the purpose is to get a more accurate depiction of the card, I am all for it.

In my posts on this board, I use a Canon scanner. I find that to get the card more accurately depicted I have to decrease the red in the original scan and increase the blue in the "Color Balance" feature. I also usually have to increase the brightness of the picture.

Now, as for the flipside of the question: To use the software to improve quality/resolution of a card or product with the sole intent of selling cards/memorabilia in a better state than the product is actually in is fraud.

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Posted By: Matt

I appreciate all of the well thought out responses. What I was hoping for is that we would come to consensus on objective guidelines for what is and isn't allowed (analogous to the unwritten hobby rules about not doctoring cards). It seems everyone agrees that enhancing scans to make the cards look better then they actually are is a problem, but most also have no problem enhancing scans if it gives a more accurate representation of the card. The end result, is that there isn't an objective standard of what type of enhancements are or are not OK (i.e. enhancing sharpness is a no-no), but rather it is about intent.




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