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Type 1 examples of Street exist in both the catching pose and the portrait. Both have the N.Y. Amer. caption.
A few other adjustments/suggestions to the checklist as well as my own questions: (I really wanted to toss in some Type 2 commentary, but I tried hard to refrain.) If any of this seems wrong, please let me know, and I'll go back and double-check. (Ted, if you need any of the scans I list below, just let me know.) * Neal Ball is Cleveland for Type 1. * Bender is confirmed with trees. I do have "no trees" on my checklist, but I don't have a scan to support it. * I do have Bridwell (portrait, cap) listed on the Type 1 checklist as Boston Nat'l, but I don't have a scan to support it. * Byrne is Pittsburg on the Type 1. * Chance is the batting pose, Chicago Nat'l for the Type 1. * Chase (trophy) is N.Y. Amer. for the Type 1. * I do have Harry Krause (Phila. Amer., pitching) on the Type 1 checklist, but I don't have a scan. * I do have Tommy Leach (Pittsburg, bending over) on the Type 1 checklist, but I don't have a scan. * Harry Lord is Chicago Amer. * I only have Harry McIntyre listed (and confirmed) with "Chicago Nat'l" caption in the "Brooklyn & Chicago" pose. (I have the "Bkln. and Chicago Nat'l" caption as being on the T215 Pirate version.) * I don't have the following players on my Type 1 checklist (although they are on either the Type 2 and/or Pirate checklists). Does anybody have scans? Brown Dubuc Evers Kelly Matty McIntyre McLean Mitchell Mowrey Oldring Purtell * I haven't confirmed with a scan, but I have Pelty (vertical) listed as St. Louis Amer. on the Type 1. * I have Frank Smith listed as having both Cincinnati and Montreal team captions in Type 1, but I do not have scans to support them. * I have Tinker (Chicago Nat'l) listed as both "bat on shoulder" (confirmed scan) and "bat off shoulder" (no scan). Thanks, Steve |
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This has got to me one of my favorite sets. Unfortunately just have one.
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I have one question. How can the Gabby Streets have a N.Y. Amer. caption if they are Type-1? Street didn't play for NY until 1912. Or does this mean that the Type-1s were printed later than 1910? Perhaps there were multiple printings, as seems to have been the case with T215 Pirates? |
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The T215-1 set was printed and issued in 2 series from 1910 thru 1912. TRADES....circa 1909 - Summer 1912 that are reflected on these T215-1 cards. Bobby Byrne..................from St Louis NL to Pittsburg on Aug 19, 1909 Harry Davis....................from Phila. A's to Cleveland 1912 Mike Donlin....................from Boston NL to Pittsburg on February 17, 1912 Clark Griffith..................signed a contract to manage Washington in Oct 1911 Topsy Hartsel.................signed by Toledo (A A) in the Fall of 1911 Buck Herzog...................from Boston NL to New York NL on July 22, 1911 Miller Huggins (port).......from Cinci to St Louis on Feb 3, 1910 Harry McIntyre..............from Brooklyn to Chicago NL on April 13, 1910 Matty McIntyre..............from Detroit to Chicago AL on Jan 12, 1911 Mike Mowrey.................from Cinci to St Louis NL on August 22, 1909 Rebel Oakes..................from Cinci to St Louis on Feb 3, 1910 Frank Smith..................from Boston AL to Cinci on May 11, 1911 Harry Steinfeldt............1912 Spring training tryout with St Louis NL Gabby Street................from Washington to New York AL on Feb 17, 1912 TED Z T206 Reference . Last edited by tedzan; 01-06-2018 at 04:50 PM. Reason: Correct typo. |
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Hi Steve (brass_rat)
I am almost sure that Matty McIntyre is in the T215 "PIRATE" Tobacco set. But, this card does not appear to be in the Red Cross (T215-1) set. I'm thinking, perhaps when American Litho printed the "PIRATE" set, they replaced Harry McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago) with Matty McIntyre. Whatever, do you have any information on this matter ? Quote:
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I made a mistake in typing -- I agree with you that Matty McIntyre is only on the T215 Pirate checklist and is not the T215 Type 1 checklist. What I meant to type is that I only have Harry McIntyre with the "Chicago Nat'l" team caption on the Type 1 checklist. I do not have Harry McIntyre with the "Bkln. and Chicago Nat'l" team caption on the Type 1 checklist. (If anybody has a scan, I'd love to see it.) (I believe that only the T215 Pirate version has the "Bkln. and Chicago Nat'l" team caption.) Cheers, Steve |
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PSA 4 so maybe this one was corrected. There's also one SGC bat of in their pop reports a 50. T215 Red Cross Wrong Flip.jpg |
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Yes -- that PSA 4 Tinker had its flip corrected to "Bat On Shoulder" prior to being sold on eBay last year. Cheers, Steve |
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Here are a few supporting examples:
Neal Ball with the Cleveland caption (the Type 2 is "Boston Amer.") Harry Lord with "Chicago Amer." Harry McIntyre with "Chicago Nat'l" Last edited by brass_rat; 01-06-2018 at 07:11 PM. Reason: typo |
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Great looking cards I just wish they didn't get so darned expensive. From my first collection.,..
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Hey Leon, thanks again for trading Mr. Griffith to me back in 2008 - where does time go?!
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Seeking very scarce/rare cards for my Sam Rice master collection, e.g., E210 York Caramel Type 2 (upgrade), 1931 W502, W504 (upgrade), W572 sepia, W573, W575-1 E. S. Rice version, 1922 Haffner's Bread, 1922 Keating Candy, 1922 Witmor Candy Type 2 (vertical back), 1926 Sports Co. of Am. with ad & blank backs. Also T216 Kotton "NGO" card of Hugh Jennings. Also 1917 Merchants Bakery & Weil Baking cards of WaJo. |
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I guess I'm off here. I thought the t215-2s were the pirate backs...did the rules change or something?
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