NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-27-2012, 08:54 AM
teetwoohsix's Avatar
teetwoohsix teetwoohsix is offline
Clayton
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
Posts: 2,461
Default The Most Desired Boston Garter

Looking at the checklists for the 1912,1913, and 1914 Boston Garter's I came to the conclusion that the 1913's would probably be the most desired (although each year's releases are all beautiful IMO) because Joe Jackson & Ty Cobb are in the 1913's.

Quite a few players were featured in 2 of the 3 years, but it seems only Tris Speaker made it into all three years (unless I'm missing something).

I do remember seeing a remarkable 1912 panel that was just mind blowing, I don't know if the owner is able to post still, but maybe someone has an image?

Just thought I'd try to start a thread about these and it would be great if anyone wanted to post some images of any of the three years of Boston Garter's, or just give their opinions/input on which year would be considered the most sought after (I don't know "scarcity" wise which is the toughest to acquire).

Thanks in advance-

Sincerely, Clayton
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-27-2012, 09:12 AM
barrysloate barrysloate is offline
Barry Sloate
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 8,293
Default

From a design standpoint, the suitcase series is most desirable, and the Mathewson card is a great rarity. But I do believe the Cobb and Jackson would be more valuable.

And the owner of the accordion lost his posting privileges , but it is probably findable in the archive.

Last edited by barrysloate; 02-27-2012 at 09:14 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-27-2012, 09:29 AM
gnaz01's Avatar
gnaz01 gnaz01 is offline
Gr3g N@z@r3th
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 3,304
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by barrysloate View Post

And the owner of the accordion lost his posting privileges , but it is probably findable in the archive.
Not that's funny, Barry!!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-27-2012, 10:05 AM
Leon's Avatar
Leon Leon is online now
Leon
peasant/forum owner
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: near Dallas
Posts: 34,200
Default requisite

As a type collector I am fortunate to have the requisite one of each....I definitely put the first year ones (1912) as the most difficult to find, followed by the 1914s, then the 1913s. That's just my seat of the pants observations. I think the only thing that holds them back on being collected is their higher values than most other pre-war cards. Even commons are quite expensive relative to most other series
Attached Images
File Type: jpg ph813bostongarter1912rucker1.jpg (75.1 KB, 576 views)
File Type: jpg ph813bostongarter1913masterb.jpg (77.9 KB, 572 views)
File Type: jpg phuncbostongartercollins.jpg (74.2 KB, 572 views)
__________________
Leon Luckey
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-27-2012, 10:20 AM
zljones's Avatar
zljones zljones is offline
Zach
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Illinois
Posts: 659
Default

Thanks for showing those pics Leon, those are gorgeous cards indeed and I rarely even get to see pics. Those are up there in beauty near N162!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-27-2012, 11:18 AM
drc drc is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,621
Default

The 1912 Mathewson. That people would pay more for others just says how dumb they are.

The 1912 is a unique issue in the hobby, in large part due the unusual graphics.

Last edited by drc; 02-27-2012 at 11:19 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-27-2012, 11:30 AM
drc drc is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,621
Default

A few years back a non-collector emailed me with nice scans of his 1912 Boston Garters, including a panel. He said they came from his uncle or similar relation (I can't remember) who had been a traveling salesman in Texas way back when. He was't interested in selling, just though I might like to see them and he wanted to know more about them.

Last edited by drc; 02-27-2012 at 11:34 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-27-2012, 02:29 PM
4815162342's Avatar
4815162342 4815162342 is offline
Daryl
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 3,216
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by drc View Post
A few years back a non-collector emailed me with nice scans of his 1912 Boston Garters, including a panel. He said they came from his uncle or similar relation (I can't remember) who had been a traveling salesman in Texas way back when. He was't interested in selling, just though I might like to see them and he wanted to know more about them.
Please post!
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-27-2012, 03:57 PM
White Borders's Avatar
White Borders White Borders is offline
Craig Wright
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: South-Central Kansas
Posts: 724
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by teetwoohsix View Post
...I do remember seeing a remarkable 1912 panel that was just mind blowing, I don't know if the owner is able to post still, but maybe someone has an image?...Sincerely, Clayton
I am not the owner.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg boston garter.jpg (72.3 KB, 417 views)
__________________
craig_w67217@yahoo.com
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-27-2012, 05:40 PM
atx840's Avatar
atx840 atx840 is offline
Chris Browne
Administrator
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
Posts: 3,735
Default



video
__________________
T206 gallery
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 02-27-2012, 06:50 PM
HRBAKER's Avatar
HRBAKER HRBAKER is offline
Jeff
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 5,255
Default

Now you've done it, I feel like such an armpit collector again.

Never get tired of seeing those.
__________________
Check out my aging Sell/Trade Album on my Profile page

HOF Type Collector + Philly A's, E/M/W cards, M101-6, Exhibits, Postcards, 30's Premiums & HOF Photos

"Assembling an unfocused collection for nearly 50 years."
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 02-28-2012, 02:02 AM
irishdenny's Avatar
irishdenny irishdenny is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,537
Default Couldn't resist :)

The Good ole' Brucey's
__________________
Life's Grand,
Denny Walsh
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 02-28-2012, 05:24 AM
ScottFandango's Avatar
ScottFandango ScottFandango is offline
Scott
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 602
Default Bruce

Wow he bought the card for 1400 and sold it for $64000

Doesn't he feel bad that he ripped the school teacher off?


Thought only mrmint did this
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 02-28-2012, 05:57 AM
barrysloate barrysloate is offline
Barry Sloate
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 8,293
Default

The card actually sold for less than half the price he said it did. I believe the final bid was around 31K in an REA auction.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 02-28-2012, 11:54 AM
2dueces 2dueces is offline
Joe
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 633
Default

Can we still sue archive even if our posting privileges are no longer available? I hate that archive guy. Keeps bring up old threads.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 02-28-2012, 11:56 AM
Rickyy Rickyy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 965
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leon View Post
Even commons are quite expensive relative to most other series
Touche Leon. I want one...but will just have to admire from afar...

Ricky Y
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 02-28-2012, 02:02 PM
teetwoohsix's Avatar
teetwoohsix teetwoohsix is offline
Clayton
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
Posts: 2,461
Default

Thanks Leon & Craig for posting those images- awesome. Leon- am I reading it right on that flip? The Herzog is 1913 but (maybe it's my computer) it looks like it says 1914?

Thanks to everyone who posted.....video was classic.

These cards are also way out of my league but I seem to like the things I can't afford

And after looking at the accordian pannel and that Rucker of Leon's I can see why the 1912's are the most desired.

Thanks again-

Sincerely, Clayton
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 02-28-2012, 05:13 PM
2dueces 2dueces is offline
Joe
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 633
Default

I know the 1912 are by far the nicest looking but the 1914 Cobb is one of his best cards. No matter who owns that panel it's always fun to see it posted.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 02-28-2012, 05:42 PM
Leon's Avatar
Leon Leon is online now
Leon
peasant/forum owner
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: near Dallas
Posts: 34,200
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by teetwoohsix View Post
Thanks Leon & Craig for posting those images- awesome. Leon- am I reading it right on that flip? The Herzog is 1913 but (maybe it's my computer) it looks like it says 1914?

Thanks to everyone who posted.....video was classic.

These cards are also way out of my league but I seem to like the things I can't afford

And after looking at the accordian pannel and that Rucker of Leon's I can see why the 1912's are the most desired.

Thanks again-

Sincerely, Clayton
Hey Clayton
I didn't really go into it but I think the Garters are now considered 1912 for the suitcase variety and 1914 for the other two types, regardless of what flips say on them. Personally I like the 1912s the best too but they are all great looking.
__________________
Leon Luckey
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 02-28-2012, 08:24 PM
CW's Avatar
CW CW is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 2,478
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by White Borders View Post
I am not the owner.
That picture has always perplexed me (and I am rarely, if ever, perplexed).

First of all, the angle and lighting on the piece actually prevent the viewer from seeing the real beauty of the sheet. Secondly, positioning the piece like that could lead to damage on the edges and put further strain on the folds.

I realize that condition doesn't factor into value too much on a unique item like that, but you'd think one would want to preserve it as best as possible for history's sake. Just a weird photo of a tremendously cool part of our hobby.

(I hope Anthony, aka Griffins, didn't shoot that photo, because I just ripped his work apart )
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 02-28-2012, 09:34 PM
MikeU MikeU is offline
member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 37
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by barrysloate View Post
The card actually sold for less than half the price he said it did. I believe the final bid was around 31K in an REA auction.
That was without the "we" or plural buyers premium.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 02-29-2012, 09:09 AM
benjulmag benjulmag is offline
CoreyRS.hanus
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 750
Default

It's my understanding Walter Johnson was issued in the 1912 Garter series. I have never seen an image of one. Does someone have it to post?
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 02-29-2012, 11:31 AM
teetwoohsix's Avatar
teetwoohsix teetwoohsix is offline
Clayton
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
Posts: 2,461
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leon View Post
Hey Clayton
I didn't really go into it but I think the Garters are now considered 1912 for the suitcase variety and 1914 for the other two types, regardless of what flips say on them. Personally I like the 1912s the best too but they are all great looking.
Thanks Leon, that works for me. I must admit I got pretty confused because I'm looking in a 4 year old Beckett big book (which I use for checklists & to look for types I'm not familiar with) and they have a picture of the 1913 that looks nothing like the description they use for that year (like your Herzog, the description does describe the 1913 year). The card they show in the book appears to be a portrait shot of Waddell with "American League Champions" above his head and "Athletic Base Ball Team" below him. He's not even on the checklist........and the card shown looks familiar to me, but as another type of card. This could be an error, I don't know. 2008 edition on page 89 if anyone wants to look.

I'm going to go with the 1912 suitcase version and the other two types I'll figure are 1914

Corey- I do not have an image of the Johnson but he is on the checklist- I'd love to see an image myself.

Sincerely, Clayton
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 03-01-2012, 01:13 PM
FourStrikes's Avatar
FourStrikes FourStrikes is offline
ThreadKiller
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 639
Default 1914 Shoeless Joe jackson

.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg BGJoeJackson.jpg (46.9 KB, 92 views)
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Boston Garter Johnson Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 2 02-13-2008 08:09 PM
1912 Boston Garter cards! Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 38 06-08-2006 11:31 PM
Boston Garter Box Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 3 03-01-2003 11:35 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:28 AM.


ebay GSB