Price request on e90-1 Young

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Posted By: ScottIngold

Does anyone keep track of these?

I have alway's wanted this card and see one up in the manontherock auction.

Any clue what they are going for ?

http://www.manontherock.com/site/bid/bidplace.asp?itemid=5009

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Posted By: Dave

according to vintagecardprices, a psa 5 hasn't been sold recently, a psa 4 was sold on 9-3-06 for $1,813.88.

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Posted By: Tony Andrea

Scott-
I just sold a real sharp Psa-4 on Ebay a few weeks ago for $2300.00.
Was snagged by their buy-it-now option.
Hope that helps.
Tony

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Posted By: ScottIngold

Thanks much guy's. Great to hear from you Tony. Wish i had seen it.

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Posted By: ItsOnlyGil

So Dave,

What is the real story here? Do these card price database programs sometimes miss auction sales, or was this your oversight? Or is it something else?

We all want to know. These guys should be winding up getting their system's bugs out soon, I figure.

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Posted By: Dave

They obviously do miss some, I'm assuming that will be worked out soon, but not sure, I had thought just about all ebay auctions were caught, but I dont know that all BIN's can be.

This is what I had to look at, if this link works...

Profile of Young (Boston) (119)





Player: Cy Young
Name on Card: Young, p. Boston Amer.
Variation: (Boston)
Card Number: 119

Year: 1909
ACC: E90-1
Set Name: 1909 American Caramel
Card Size: 1-1/2 x 2-3/4
Number of cards in set: 120

Set Description: The American Caramel Co. from 1910-1911 issued this set with the majority being distributed in the first year. The cards where distributed with sticks of caramel candy. The fronts are color reproductions of photographs, backs state 100 subjects but actually 120 are known to exist.






Latest Auction Prices and Grades (Click on price in the grade to see all results)



Grader: PSA
Auth 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

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Grader: SGC
Auth 10 (1) 20 (1.5) 30 (2) 40 (3) 50 (4) 60 (5) 70 (5.5)

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$293.00
$1001.01
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80 (6) 84 (7) 86 (7.5) 88 (8) 92 (8.5) 96 (9) 98 (10) 100

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Grader: GAI
Auth 1 1.5 2 2.5 3 3.5 4 4.5 5

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Grader: BVG
Auth 1 1.5 2 2.5 3 3.5 4 4.5 5

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Posted By: Trae R.

Oops.

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Posted By: BlackSoxFan

Agreed Trae

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Posted By: Gilbert Maines

My fee for giving you that "free" main board advertising lead in is $50. Pay promptly and you will get another.

Leon ain't the only guy who can go commercial. This should get me bounced quick. Help! Yikes.

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Posted By: BlackSoxFan

Sorry Gil,
You're right, this isn't the place. If you want information, you know how to find me and i'll be glad to explain what i can.

Regards,

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Posted By: Bobby

Leon,

I hope that it is alright and justifiable for me to say something here about VintageCardPrices.

First of all we do not track BIN's or Best Offers..that is why you will not find any of those price results in our system. We verify every auction once the auction has been approved it goes into our system queue. From here it checks ever members "Want List" and if the card meets or is better then what people are looking for send that member an email with a link to that particular auction so you can bid on it. We are eBay developers and Affiliates which means that our computer directly communicates with eBay's every 15 minutes to check every auction in our queue to see if it has ended. Once an auction has ended it posts to our website witin 15 minutes automatically. As well it notifies every member who has that card by the same grader and grade that one of his cards just sold in auction with a link so they know exactly which cards are selling. On the price grid for every card there are links to the actual auction itself so you can verify and compare the card that has sold to a current card in auction to see if was a strong or week grade. We have price information on over 400 sets of cards in the system and in the porcess of a major system upgrade that will increase our coverage to include 60's, 70's & 80's baseball. Along with Football, Basketball, Hockey and Boxing as seperate sections of the website which will be completed before the end of this week. Not only do we cover ebay but have results from 20 other major auction houses as well. I will be more then glad to help out anybody who has any questions and our sytem is virtually error free..but when there is one it is easily corrected.

Regards,

Bobby

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Posted By: Dave

not sure of the "gasps"......i was asked a question and posted what is "shown" for the answer. i assume the "horrified gasps" are because of it being a paysite (and a good one bobby dont get me wrong), that i've crossed a line posting the auction results from that ONE card. i have seen numerous folks on here asking about auction results or what this card or that card is worth before...how is it different just posting what that one card is worth? its not different, yes, i posted the search results of a card. it won't happen again. but i also would expect in the future the same "horrified gasps" when somebody (not singling you out gil, i'm more just amazed) asks what in the world thier card is worth. Sharing the information is sharing the information, if you want to gasp at the thought i'm showing what ONE card's auction results have been, then stop thinking its ok to give out what a T207 Art Fletcher in SGC 60 condition is "worth" when prompted.

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Posted By: ScottIngold

What did i miss ?

I only asked for some info on a card. It seems to have somehow turned negative. If it is because i don't subscribe to one of the pay site's. Than i apologize to those guy's.... But i certainly hope that someone can still ask for info on this board without having to pay someone for it.

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Posted By: leon

Ask away....I think it got into a pissing match with the "pay" sites of pricing. We will help when we can. I think the $2300 in a 4 and about $1600-$1800 in a 3 sounds about right in todays market....give or take $100 depending on the bidders and look of the card...Maybe $1300-$1500 for a nice 2....My estimates are only from me following the market like an addict and it's not from anyone's database.....regards

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Posted By: BlackSoxFan

Hi guys,
Gil asked a question that i felt was directed at both VCP.com & CardPricer.com. I took some time to respond to that particular question. I thought Gil (hi Gil) was basically saying the post was inapproriate, so after going back and forth (hence the number of edits), I removed the text. I'll be happy to explain our position using our company id if people would like me to clarify. Thanks guys and no big deal either way. Ultimately, I think our product and the amount of data currently available speaks for itself.

And for the record:
Leon -
Not a "pissing match", I didn't even bring up our competitors name and since it appeared directed at both of us, I would expect Robert to respond. I pulled my comments because of Gil.

And ...
I have no problem with anyone who is a subscriber sharing our information on a limited basis. If someone here asks for a price, please feel free to post our information, just be conservative. After all, we do need subscribers to hang around.

Regards,

Black Sox Fan

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Posted By: leon

Thanks for the clarification. I didn't see your post so I did the unthinkable...I ASSUMED....ouch....take care

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Posted By: Dave

my whole view was that giving the information on the one single card asked about, was nothing more than that. if i were the owner of one of the sites and someone posted info on how a single card is broke down, i'd actually appreciate it. as far as thats concerned the way someone reads that post at that point with the breakdown may actually see the value in subscribing to a service. thats all there was to it, period, the end, the fat lady is waddling in the mud.

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Posted By: Ted

Dave -
I responded to Gil's question. Like i said, I am happy to have our information posted publicly (within reason). Everyone has a two-week free trial anyway. We don't have a problem with some free access. If you are interested in learning more about our product, you can visit our site, email me, or even call me.

To briefly touch on the "hot topic" of the moment, right now this board is a free site, and we do not want to abuse that. We have contracts in place with eBay's DataLicense company and a handful of other organizations. It is important that we operate professionally. I have no problems advertising in appropriate places.

Kindest Regards,
CardPricer.com
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Posted By: Bobby

Dave,

You are a member of www.vintagecardprices.com and I sent you an email when I saw this post telling you that it is alright and to please not do it again. You are an active memeber and on my site all the time and appreciate you promoting our product. I am on this board all the time and have on numerous occasions posted price information when ever the subject has come up on this board. I see it as a way for every one here to get a sample of our product and come to our site to find out more about the way we do things.

We have some greats deals about to materialize that will benefit all the members and will be in place for our site shortly. I can't mention them until the contracts are signed and sealed.

We have a promotion that will take place soon and that is for every member that signs up for a free "Limited Membership" non paying and creates a "Want List" and "My Collection" will get a free 2 week VIP upgrade starting November 1st to the 14th. this will give you full access to everything in the site.

Regards,

Bobby
VintageCardPrices

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Posted By: leon

What has been posted is fine but let's curtail it please....

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Posted By: BlackSoxFan

Will do Leon,
I edited the superfulous information out ... here's the point guys...

We get every transaction from eBay without fail. Beckett Media can also get every transaction, though that's a whole nother topic.

Here's the info on how we get eBay data:
eBay Certified Provider Overview We are a solution provider.
Market Data Page

If you have any more questions, just contact me via email. Mum's the word from here on out guys.

Regards,

Black Sox Fan

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Posted By: Gilbert Maines

Sorry guys for making a post like that and then splitting. But you see - the game was on. Beating the Cards is important. And the Mets were one down. And guess what? The game is on again.

But I started something, and I need to explain a bit.

First off Dave: My "gasps" were not attributable to the information which you shared. If anything, I would think that the information represents good advertising. Any "gasps" are attributable to the ease that I found that actual cash could be generated by providing an opportunity for a salesperson to peddle his wares.

I simply asked the right question about company A, and suddenly appeared company B pointing out their invincibility (well not quite ). But it worked. I thought that it might. And the analogy to the banner thread was timely.

As far as Card Pricer vs. Vintage Card Prices, it is my opinion that these opportunities are important to us. Much like the opportunities called PSA, SGC and others. Therefore, it does not appear to me reasonable to expect us to not discuss the pros and cons associated with each opportunity, as each of us views it.

Now I know that we are all friends, but we are talking about whose machine needs what improvement in our eyes, and does the builder want to change anything. This is new ground, and important ground. It is in part an interactive multi-featured dynamic virtual real time price guide (where did that come from + what does it mean?).

Each of us will have our preferences, but if you guys are going to keep the price at $100/yr., it seems like a bargain to me. I just wish that the cards which I am interested in changed hands more frequently in slabs. But if they did, would they be the cards I"m interested in, I wonder. But I digress. What is the point? Anyone remember? Oh, well. I guess it is time for the game. -gil