1964 topps tatoos shill bidding galore bassik and morris

sflayank · #1 03-21-2014, 08:02 PM

r u guys kidding me?
heres one example
1964 Topps Tattoos Set Break BLUE Curt Flood 3.18.14
same winner...on all the stupid prices with the same underbidder
they jacked this guy big time
these werent even full size tattoos curt flood in this condition would normally sell for $5
sflayank
larry s

hangman62 · #2 03-21-2014, 08:28 PM

Larry,
and your 100% sure of this..and can prove it to the Ebay president and CEO

vintage954 · #3 03-22-2014, 06:09 AM

I had that same feeling a few weeks ago and posted here to see what people thought and almost got the lynch mob

bnorth · #4 03-22-2014, 06:43 AM

Don't know about shilling, but I pulled up a few completed auctions and the guy must have a cult like following. There are several bidders with over 90% bid activity and a few with 100%.

nolemmings · #5 03-22-2014, 10:00 AM

The Flood had 5 different bidders over $75, and the top three bidders all sniped in the final eight seconds of the auction as their only bids. The under-bidder has 9% bid activity with this seller and no bid retractions in the last 6 months. That is far from classic shill bidding. It seems quite a few people valued that card at much higher than $5.

Sean1125 · #6 03-22-2014, 10:03 AM

4reals · #7 03-30-2014, 06:33 PM

How are you able to do this when ebay disguises the bidders user name?

I've often wanted to contact the winner of a lot to see if they'd sell me one of the cards in the lot. How do you do it?

hangman62 · #8 03-30-2014, 07:02 PM

NO NO..Larry knows how to do that..Ive seen it before

I Only Smoke 4 the Cards · #9 03-30-2014, 09:13 PM

I didn't know it was so easy to retract a bid I think I have done it once because I entered the wrong dollar amount. It was years ago but I thought I had to give an explanation.

glynparson · #10 03-31-2014, 03:18 AM

but if you contacted me to sell me something off eBay based on my eBay bids and I did not know you, i would tell you to go pound sand but not in such a nice way.

bnorth · #11 03-31-2014, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by glynparson

but if you contacted me to sell me something off eBay based on my eBay bids and I did not know you, i would tell you to go pound sand but not in such a nice way.

When I sold a lot of cards on eBay I was always contacting other members to try to sell an extra card or buy one out of a lot someone outbid me on. I sold way more cards off eBay than through eBay. I still do it to buy cards once in a while. If a super rare error pops up on eBay that I want I instantly message the seller and ask if they will pull the card off eBay and sell it directly to me. The bad part is usually a fellow board member here has beat me to it.

That is funny glynparson, in the thousands of people I contacted not a single one responded like you said you would.

D. Bergin · #12 03-31-2014, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bnorth

When I sold a lot of cards on eBay I was always contacting other members to try to sell an extra card or buy one out of a lot someone outbid me on. I sold way more cards off eBay than through eBay. I still do it to buy cards once in a while. If a super rare error pops up on eBay that I want I instantly message the seller and ask if they will pull the card off eBay and sell it directly to me. The bad part is usually a fellow board member here has beat me to it.

That is funny glynparson, in the thousands of people I contacted not a single one responded like you said you would.

..........and if you offered a card to an underbidder in an auction you had nothing to do with, and they didn't respond to you.........you would assume they were a shiller?............because that's what this thread seems to be about.

vintage954 · #13 03-31-2014, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

..........and if you offered a card to an underbidder in an auction you had nothing to do with, and they didn't respond to you.........you would assume they were a shiller?............because that's what this thread seems to be about.

I don't think that's what he just said, but nice try

nolemmings · #14 03-31-2014, 11:10 AM

C'mon Dave, you know better than that. Larry apparently knows how to crack the ebay security system for protecting bidder's ID's, but he uses this power not for any self-serving purposes but instead to protect the hobby from evil-doers. He only contacts the underbidders to see if they're "real" and if they do not respond, well then, you've got your answer now, don't you. We should be grateful for this tireless and thankless pursuit.

Seems to me we all should pitch in and lend a hand. If Larry would just share with us how to see the bidders' identities we all could take turns monitoring against shill bidding and "out" the shillers' IDs. Together we may even help stop the practice altogether. Although our collective sleuthing abilities are likely not as refined as Larry's, we can at least each do our part.

ALR-bishop · #15 03-31-2014, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bnorth

If a super rare error pops up on eBay that I want I instantly message the seller and ask if they will pull the card off eBay and sell it directly to me. The bad part is usually a fellow board member here has beat me to it.

:

This would be another interesting and potentially controversial topic

glynparson · #16 04-01-2014, 04:46 AM

Not one person thought you were a possible scammer. BS. Blow smoke somewhere else. I would especially be suspicious with the current system. Sorry I do not like to be scammed,and I gaurantee I am not the only one. What you explain also violated the agreement you made with Ebayglad to know you honor your agreements so well.

bnorth · #17 04-01-2014, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glynparson

Not one person thought you were a possible scammer. BS. Blow smoke somewhere else. I would especially be suspicious with the current system. Sorry I do not like to be scammed,and I gaurantee I am not the only one. What you explain also violated the agreement you made with Ebayglad to know you honor your agreements so well.

Who or what are you referring to?

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