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Old 11-26-2006, 04:10 PM
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Default T206 Systematic Back Study #1 - American Beauty

Posted By: RayB

In reference to a topic discussed in another thread revolving around Back rarites and the value of the Back totals as a pct of total cards, I'll get the ball rolling with American Beauty Backs. (Alphabetical Order is as good as any).

Let's have Board members check in here with the following info:
AB Backs 350 Series w/Frame
AB Backs 350 Series wo/Frame
AB Backs 460 Series
Which Players
AB Backs (all) as a pct of total T206 cards held by collector.

I am not in the position to sort or catalog the responses and tally them due to time restrictions but hopefully a volunteer for this will surface. I am sure this systematic approach will yield some fascinating results and help us fine tune what we know about the set.

I'll go first.

AB Backs 350 Series w/Frame - My total 1.33% (3/225)
AB Backs 350 Series wo/Frame - 0% (0/225)
AB Backs 460 Series - 0% (0/225)
Which Players - Lattimore, Egan, Burke (all 350 Series w/Frame)
Pct of total - 1.33% (3/225)

RayB

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Old 11-26-2006, 04:39 PM
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Posted By: Steve M.


From my historical records when I was really into T206:

8 out of 1941

.00412%

All 350 Series. All with frame.

Myers Batting
Schlafly
Raymond
Lennox
Jordan Batting
Bender Trees
Leifield Batting
Gaspar

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Old 11-26-2006, 05:08 PM
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Posted By: Lee

I have 0 American Beauty of any variation out of 61 cards (soon to be fixed)

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Old 11-26-2006, 05:54 PM
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Posted By: Bill

Here are the current totals for American Beauty backs in the "Super Set":

American Beauty 350 Frame 171/213 80%

American Beauty 350 No Frame 34/56 61%

American Beauty 460 47/109 43%


My totals:

American Beauty 350 Frame

Adkins
Bresnahan (With Bat)
Downs
Graham (St. Louis)
Hoffman (St. Louis)
Kruger
Smith (Buffalo)
Wilson
Young, Irv

American Beauty 350 No Frame

Baker
Burch (Fielding)
Conroy (With Bat)
Downey (Batting)
Elberfeld (Washington, Fielding)
Leifield (Batting)
Magee (With Bat)
McQuillan (With Bat)
Mullin (With Bat)
Nichols (Batting)
Pelty (Vertical)
Pfeister (Throwing)
Reulbach (No Glove Showing)
Seymour (Throwing)
Stahl (Glove Shows)
Steinfeldt (With Bat)
Street (Catching)
Sweeney (Fielding)
Wilhelm (Batting)
Willetts
Wiltse (Pitching)

American Beauty 460

Ford
Gandil
Geyer


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Posted By: Patrick McMenemy

I have one of each type of the American Beauty 350 Subject backs out of a total of 17 T206s. I purchased these because I like the thinner look of the American Beauty T206s.


Bresnahan (Batting) AB Back 350 Subjects with frame
Street (Catching) AB Back 350 Subjects without frame





Patrick

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Old 11-26-2006, 06:16 PM
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Posted By: Patrick McMenemy

Bill:

Please add this information to your "Super Set" stats.

Patrick

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Old 11-26-2006, 06:19 PM
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Posted By: joe brennan

CONGALTON COLUMBUS PORTRAIT AMER BEAUTY 350 FRAME

1/128

People said it was a million dollar wound. But the government must keep that money, cause I ain't never seen a penny of it.

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Old 11-26-2006, 08:42 PM
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Posted By: barry arnold

thanks, ray.

one of each
350 NF Elberfeld fielding
350 frame Dubuc
460 Chase, holding trophy
each category is 1 of 450= .66% of my total

By the way, Lee Behrens did some helpful work on the AB's around the time
of the lengthy EPDG thread some time back.

all the best,

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Old 11-26-2006, 08:56 PM
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Posted By: steve yawitz

9 out of 277

350 w/ Frame
Barbeau, Jap
Beck, Fred
Bliss, Jack
Mitchell, Mike
Schreck, Ossie (Schreckengost)

350 w/o Frame
Lake, Joe (St. Louis, No Ball)
Pfeister, Jake (Pfiester, Throwing)
Steinfeldt, Harry (w/ Bat)

460
Crandall, Doc (w/ Cap)

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Old 11-26-2006, 09:35 PM
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Posted By: Dave

0/25.....and if any of your 3 Ray are PSA slabbed, send them over buddy

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Old 11-27-2006, 08:04 AM
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Posted By: Ray Piskadlo

4 out of 195 = 2%

Hal Chase (Dark Cap) = AB 350 Framed
Topsy Hartsel = AB 350 Framed
William Malarkey = AB 350 Framed
Ozzie Schreck = AB 350 Framed

No 350 w/o frame or 460.

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Old 11-28-2006, 07:22 PM
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Posted By: Mike (18colt)

Mine are already entered on the Super Set, but here they are anyway. 11 out of 515 (approx. 2.136%).

350 - no frame: Jordan (Brooklyn, batting), Magee (batting)

350 - with frame: Knight (portrait), Knight (batting), Myers (fielding), Adkins, McGinley, McGinnity, White (Buffalo)

460 - Cobb (bat off shoulder), Steinfeldt (batting)

Likely dumb question (I've never thought about it before looking at this data): All of my 350 series AB backs are from factory 25, 2nd district VA. All of my 460 series AB backs are from factory 42, 4th district NC (and all have no frame). Are all 350 AB backs from VA and are all 460 AB backs from NC and frameless? Thanks.

Mike (18colt)

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