Who said there are no deals on ebay......

[ullmandds]

I just don't agree with all these caveats people are suggesting...if this then this? Are you a mind reader? Do you know what a seller was thinking...or what knowledge is in his/her brain? And it's not like baseball card dealers are the most ethical, honest bunch out there...who's to say they can't lie?

[nolemmings]

There is no evidence here that there was a pricing error--is someone suggesting that this card was intended to be sold for $2495.00 and a decimal point was missed? Or is it more likely that someone forgot or didn't realize that a Lennox back--noted BOTH in the title and in the description-- is worth considerably more than $24.95. Two completely different animals.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

There is no evidence here that there was a pricing error--is someone suggesting that this card was intended to be sold for $2495.00 and a decimal point was missed? Or is it more likely that someone forgot or didn't realize that a Lennox back--noted BOTH in the title and in the description-- is worth considerably more than $24.95. Two completely different animals.

I think the price should have been $249.95.

[BleedinBlue]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

There is no evidence here that there was a pricing error--is someone suggesting that this card was intended to be sold for $2495.00 and a decimal point was missed? Or is it more likely that someone forgot or didn't realize that a Lennox back--noted BOTH in the title and in the description-- is worth considerably more than $24.95. Two completely different animals.

This was not an error in decimal place. All t206 cards sold by the seller were the same $24.95 price. Regardless of back.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

There is no evidence here that there was a pricing error

Call him and ask him

(713) 672-2793

Still waiting on answer for question in post #112

[jhs5120]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

I just don't agree with all these caveats people are suggesting...if this then this? Are you a mind reader? Do you know what a seller was thinking...or what knowledge is in his/her brain? And it's not like baseball card dealers are the most ethical, honest bunch out there...who's to say they can't lie?

No caveats. If you see a dealer make a mistake on a listing you can either take advantage of the mistake or try to correct it. Neither choice is wrong.

All I said was it's a shame this dealer was dealing with an opportunist.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by jhs5120

No caveats. If you see a dealer make a mistake on a listing you can either take advantage of the mistake or try to correct it. Neither choice is wrong.

All I said was it's a shame this dealer was dealing with an opportunist.

nothing personal, JAson...but I find your way of thinking to be totally one sided.

[jhs5120]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

nothing personal, JAson...but I find your way of thinking to be totally one sided.

Pot calling the kettle black.

[nolemmings]

I will not call him and ask him. Unlike you, I do not gratuitously interject myself into other people's business transactions.

As for your post, learn what retainers truly are and then come back with a proper question. If I were to provide services at an agreed-upon rate and list a detailed accounting of my time--as is the case with my billings, which are generated on a software program not likely to make a computational error-- and that time came to $5000.00, then I would expect to get paid for all of my time expended, and would point out any error that claimed $500.00 and request the difference. If the client did not agree, I would likely eat the difference and withdraw from further representation.

[tschock]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

I will not call him and ask him. Unlike you, I do not gratuitously interject myself into other people's business transactions.

As for your post, learn what retainers truly are and then come back with a proper question. If I were to provide services at an agreed-upon rate and list a detailed accounting of my time--as is the case with my billings, which are generated on a software program not likely to make a computational error-- and that time came to $5000.00, then I would expect to get paid for all of my time expended, and would point out any error that claimed $500.00 and request the difference. If the client did not agree, I would likely eat the difference and withdraw from further representation.

OK, now try saying that with the voice of John Houseman, because that's how I'm hearing it in my head.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

I will not call him and ask him. Unlike you, I do not gratuitously interject myself into other people's business transactions.

I generally don't either. I make an exception in the case of a friend.

Originally Posted by nolemmings

As for your post, learn what retainers truly are and then come back with a proper question.

Thank you, but I know what a retainer is - it's bascially like an advanced payment for an attorney's fee. In 1999, I had to put up a retainer in my custody battle with my ex wife. The attorney charged a $5000 retainer and billed $250/hr against the retainer. Every month I received a bill for whatever he billed so that there was $5K in the retainer at all time. Don't tell me about retainer fees.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I generally don't either. I make an exception in the case of a friend.







Thank you, but I know what a retainer is - it's bascially like an advanced payment for an attorney's fee. In 1999, I had to put up a retainer in my custody battle with my ex wife. The attorney charged a $5000 retainer and billed $250/hr against the retainer. Every month I received a bill for whatever he billed so that there was $5K in the retainer at all time. Don't tell me about retainer fees.

You are actually incorrect a true retainer is paid so the lawyer is available when you call. In essence it is earned when paid. The situation you described is a fee deposit. The money is given to the lawyer but is not earned until he works on the case. Most lawyers even get confused about the difference.

[chernieto]

Originally Posted by jhs5120

No caveats. If you see a dealer make a mistake on a listing you can either take advantage of the mistake or try to correct it. Neither choice is wrong.

All I said was it's a shame this dealer was dealing with an opportunist.

An opportunist? As a buyer aren't we all opportunists, looking for an opportunity to get a card at a good, or preferably great price?
If there is a shame here it's not the buyer fault. I don't think they were taking advantage of the seller. The seller offered an item at a price.
If you see cross country airline tickets offered for $40 by United Airlines would you call them and say the price is too low & you would prefer to pay 10 times the offered price?
If an attorney says "all retainers are 5k" and the bill is 500 one could rightly expect the know price to come back and the error to be addressed.
The seller never said the Lenox card is a steal at $249.50 or made any indication of value other than the BIN price. If the card goes to a TPG and comes back as a fake the price might end up being.......high. Not saying that will happen, but it would likely change everyone's opinion on the subject.
Paul C

[jhs5120]

Originally Posted by chernieto

If there is a shame here it's not the buyer fault. I don't think they were taking advantage of the seller.

I never blamed the buyer. What he did was not wrong in any regard, he took advantage of a seller who made a simple mistake. In this hobby some people praise that sort of action (I know I do sometimes).

It's just unfortunate for the dealer.