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Sure is!

I got a card in it too. Bid for Bid guys! http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/site/bidplace.aspx?itemid=8243#pic

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Mein Gott !!!!

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Gott und Teufel.

Wow.

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Posted By: Adam J. Baxter

Just perused the online catalog and....Wow. The 19th century material alone was jaw dropping. The fact that the 1838 Olympic Club constitution has even survived all these years is nothing short of amazing.

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Posted By: Joe D.

there are a few lots I would really like.

so, if everyone could run their bids-intentions by me beforehand that would be appreciated

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Posted By: Wesley

Amazing offering by REA again. The Olympic Ball Club constitution and the two 1914 Ruth cards are incredible.

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It's a tough call between Mastro and REA this go around.

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

I just finished going through REA's online catalogue; it was like a day at the museum. I'm blown away. A signed baseball by the Dalai Lama? Are you kidding me? Incredible stuff.

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Posted By: leon

Great photo of Ruth on the Baltimore team........


edited to correct lot #

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Posted By: Seth B.

Leon (or anyone else), pardon my fuzzy eyes, but which one is Ruth in the postcard? Is he second from the right on the top row? If so, he was much skinnier back in 1914.


By the way, this auction is unbelievable, especially the 19th century stuff. I think there's something for everyone; these guys do a truly magnificent job finding things to include.

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Posted By: Jeremy Wagoner

Lot 1594 is the Net54 charity lot. Great job to those who contributed!

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Posted By: barrysloate

Ruth is actually in the back row to the left. It is a little hard to pick him out.

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Posted By: Steve M.

Maybe I'm just a naive boob but is there really enough money out there to support the vast quantity of high end material that is appearing in these auctions?

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Posted By: quan

if you auction it, they will come. i'm ebaying my food stamps as we speak.

just some really amazing stuff in both mastro and rea.

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Posted By: George Dreher

I think there is enough, but much of it is held in the accounts of an elite few.

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Posted By: Dan

Overall SHOCK and AWE is all that I can say. How can folks keep pace with both of these wonderful auctions at the same time?

Wife: "Honey, what happened to all the money we had in the bank?"
Husband: "What money?"
Wife: "You know what I am talking about"
Husband: "Ahhhh, I am sure it is around here somewhere"

I am sure that some folks have some pretty serious arguments coming their way considering how many really nice lots there are in both auctions. Thank God that I haven't been bitten by the Sepia Tone'd Devil of the 1800's.

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Posted By: James Feagin

Don't forget about Memory Lane or Heritage

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Posted By: leon

Memory what?

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Steve- it's all supply and demand. There's no doubt the amount of material on the market is unprecedented. At what point the supply exceeds the demand is anyone's guess, but it's starting to look like there is too much stuff out there.

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"but it's starting to look like there is too much stuff out there."


That is an interesting observation. Have you noticed a downward trend for prewar cards?

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Posted By: Dave Stinsman

I'm just blown away. 37 E125's and 2 1894 Alpha Photo Engraving.

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Posted By: barrysloate

No, I haven't seen a downward trend at all.

But just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it couldn't happen.

I don't think there will be a shortage of people bidding on the finest known Tango Eggs set, but what about all the mid-grade second tier material that keeps appearing in almost every auction? That's where I think the market could get softer.

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Posted By: Bruce Babcock

What year is the rookie year year for the Dalai Lama?

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

I think the DL's rookie year was around 1575 or so (Jim correct me if I'm wrong as this is from memory). As he has been reborn a number of times since then, his rookie year remains that early date.

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Posted By: Ryan Christoff

Surely Jim B can enlighten us as to the history of Lama rookie status. If anyone here has the Lama's rookie, it's him....so he's got that going for him...which is nice.

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Well done on the charity auction. It looks like some real quality cards were given to the cause.

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

"On your deathbed you will receive total consciousness......"

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Posted By: barrysloate

I didn't even know the Dalai Lama played baseball. Must have played in the Eastern league

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Posted By: David Vargha

Surely Jim B can enlighten us as to the history of Lama rookie status. If anyone here has the Lama's rookie, it's him....so he's got that going for him...which is nice.

Lama appeared on a one-of-a-kind Reccius card if I'm not mistaken. I don't have time to go into it right now, but it's a real "Cinderella story".

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Posted By: Rob Dewolf

Dalai Lama: good field, obviously no hit

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Posted By: barrysloate

I can just picture Jim B. reading this thread and muttering to himself: "if I see one more Dalai Lama joke..."

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Posted By: Bruce Babcock

Barry, I think it was the Far Eastern League. Every time Tibet played a road game in Bangkok, it was a Thai ball game. (Place smiley icon here).

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

Yeah, I'm thinking that when Jim finally gets a crack at this thread he'll be thinking that he needs to check up on the board every ten minutes from now on.

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The first Dalai Lama was alive from 1391-1474. The current Dalai Lama, the 14th, was born in 1935. He was enthroned as the Dalai Lama at the age of 4. He was given power as the political ruler of Tibet at 16 in 1951. So an autograph from his rookie year could either be seen as 1939 or 1951. Since he probably did not know how to write yet at the age of four, I would go for 1951 as the rookie year. His training from 1939-1951 could be seen as his time in the minors. It would be like a Baltimore News Ruth.

FYI, the signature on the ball says, "Tenzin Gyatso" which is a portion of the very lengthy name he was given when he was enthroned.

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P.S. Nobody is pulling up the Caddy Shack joke yet. You guys are lagging.

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is a funny guy. His comments here proved that again. And that scan of Bill Murray brings back humor as well.

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Big hitter, the Llama.

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A "Thai" ball game. Oooh, that hurts!

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Fantastic items, top to bottom.

I do get tired of the auction houses' low-ball estimates. I'm not singling out REA because most all seem to do it, and I know its done for marketing reasons, but regardless.

Anyway, not trying to put a damper on this superb auction or REA (because I think they're absolutely the best there is), I'm just sayin'.

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Posted By: barrysloate

REA is the only auction house to provide estimates.

If you are referring to very low starting bids, there is a reason it is done. People need to qualify, and it is important to have as many qualifiers as possible. I know I can put in as many bids as I want the first day, even on a hundred or more lots, and have no risk of winning any of them if I don't come back the last night to bid again. If those opening bids were too high, I would be much more conservative and bid on far fewer lots.

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Posted By: martindl

Barry,
I may be confused on who provides estimates, but I thought there were more that do so. I also bid in a lot of none sport related auctions where estimates are provided and invariably the estimates are quite a bit lower than items are going to go for. At the end of the auctions the auction house can then say "record auction, 40% higher than estimate".

I was not referring to opening bids.

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Posted By: barrysloate

There is no question the estimates are deliberately low so the auction house can show that a lot far exceeded its expectation. I think Sotheby's does it too. But unless I'm wrong not too many of the other baseball auctions have them.

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Posted By: Josh Adams

So he's got that going for him, which is nice.

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Posted By: Paul

I thought the current Dalai Lama is considered the 14th reincarnation of the first Dalai Lama. If that's the case, his rookie card would have to be from the 1391 era.

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Posted By: leon

that means my 1392 card of the Dali Lama isn't his rookie? I think I overpaid....

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Posted By: Josh Adams

It's ok Leon, I thought rookie cards were out of style? .

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Posted By: Ryan Christoff

Paul's right, his "true" rookie would be from 1391. Talk about vintage. It's still pre-war, but it's pre-war-of-the-roses.

By the way, I did have the rookie Caddyshack post on this thread, although I think only Jeff noticed.

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Posted By: leon

It's type card collecting that's out of style. Rookie card collecting is HOT HOT HOT..... I swear to it...

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Posted By: JimB

Ryan,
You definately had the rookie Caddhyshack allusion. I missed it the first time through.
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