1887-90 Old Judge N172 - Captain John Ward HOF - NY NL

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Posted By: billy

I am in the pursuit of a John Ward card.
I came across this on Ebay
1887-90 Old Judge N172 - Captain John Ward HOF - NY NL

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4125886598&category=31719&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWA%3AIT&rd=1

Since my experience has been mostly in the Topps 1970 to 1990 range, and all of my experience has been via shows...no internet purchases, I wonder if anyone can provide some feedback on this card and its claim to be original.

The seller says it is and he has many postive feedbacks. But on a random checking of feedback, I only found sales of graded cards. This one is not graded, and the back is non-existent.

I have heard that reprint cards say "reprint", but I wonder if that is the case for all of them. I know there are reprints of many many different sets.

Well...thanks from a first-time-poster.

Billy

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Posted By: Kenny Cole

It's trimmed, skinned, and beat to death, but I'd say its real.

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Posted By: billy

Thanks for such a quick response, Kenny.
It sure it beat up...but that's the only way I could afford one.

Mind if I ask what you based your feedback on? Is there something you know about Old Judge cards?

Thanks again,

Billy

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Posted By: Elliot

Yep, it's real, but a Jeff S. special

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Posted By: Anonymous

Elliot,

Thanks for your feedback.

I guess you guys have some inside jokes that I may someday catch onto, but for now I must ask "What is a Jeff S special"?

I know the guy selling the card is not named Jeff.

Thanks,

Billy

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Posted By: Bill Cornell

http://stores.ebay.com/psa1-Vintage-Baseball-Cards

Jeff Sackmann's eBay Store.

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Posted By: Halleygator

Good God ... those "Jeff S. cards" are painful to look at!

They look as if they have been tortured on purposed.

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Posted By: Billy

A ha! Thanks for filling me in.

Those Jeff S cards are up my affordability alley.

I guess buying poor poor condition cards is a catch 22. It seems that the way to be sure a card is original is if its graded, but I don't believe they grade cards is very poor poor shape.

Again, much obliged.

Billy

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Posted By: hankron

I'd say if the Ward price stays low, it would be worth snagging. If matted and framed creatively, it could make an attractive and unique display piece.

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Posted By: Jeff S

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Posted By: Joe P.

Do you accept personal checks?

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Posted By: Billy

Thanks for all the help. I put in a bid and lost. Based on the price it sold for, I was the 2nd highest bidder but of course I don't know how the high winning bidders high bid was.

I'll keep my eyes open for some sort of Ward card in off condition from the pre-1900's. One day...

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Posted By: Julie

that's one of the nicest skinned, trimmed cards I've seen. Why not go for it? But I didn't, and you didn't go high enough...