NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Postwar Sportscard Forums > Postwar Baseball Cards Forum (Pre-1980)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-06-2018, 05:30 PM
JollyElm's Avatar
JollyElm JollyElm is offline
D@rrΣn Hu.ghΣs
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 7,331
Default A technical grading question...

This isn't necessarily a complaint, it's more of a sense of wonderment. I just had this 1968 Nolan Ryan RC graded, and I'm looking for some insight.

1968ryan177psa1.jpg

The corners are pretty nice (of course, the large scan makes them look worse than they are) and the card is way o/c. Since it is practically falling off the edge of the cardboard, why didn't it get an OC qualifier?? The group sub allowed for qualifiers (as other cards I got back were slabbed OC), and I was expecting this Ryan to be a PSA 6 or 7 OC. Is it possible that that was the case and it got 2 grades subtracted from it for bad centering and ended up a 5? Could that be accurate? When I checked the auction prices website, I only found three PSA 5 OC examples there, but they were all very old labels (no types of stickers/logos in the bottom center area of the slabs), and they were in worse shape than this card (see below), so I am wondering if PSA had stopped giving OC qualifiers to 5's or something? That can't be accurate, correct? I couldn't find anything mentioned in their grading standards pages.

Anyone have an idea? Does PSA believe it to truly be a 5 with centering parameters that somehow fall into place, even though it looks to be along the lines of 97/3 or worse??



381893185757960682.jpg
8028862059456802805.jpg
-4646610607051046197.jpg
__________________
All the cool kids love my YouTube Channel:
Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land

https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm

Looking to trade? Here's my bucket:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706

“I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.”
Casey Stengel

Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s.

Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-06-2018, 05:46 PM
irv's Avatar
irv irv is offline
D@le Irv*n
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Ontario, Canada.
Posts: 6,662
Default

I've seen less OC cards receive the OC designation from PSA so your guess is as good as mine.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-06-2018, 05:50 PM
JollyElm's Avatar
JollyElm JollyElm is offline
D@rrΣn Hu.ghΣs
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 7,331
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by irv View Post
I've seen less OC cards receive the OC designation from PSA so your guess is as good as mine.
Weird, right??
__________________
All the cool kids love my YouTube Channel:
Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land

https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm

Looking to trade? Here's my bucket:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706

“I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.”
Casey Stengel

Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s.

Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-06-2018, 10:00 PM
CobbSpikedMe's Avatar
CobbSpikedMe CobbSpikedMe is offline
Andrew Hunt00n
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Belle Mead, NJ
Posts: 2,169
Default

My apologies if this is a dumb question. I noticed that the first two cards you posted as comparisons and your card all have a white line on the left border. Do these three just happened to be Milton Bradley cards? Just curious as I'm not sure if the Ryan MB has the white line or not.

Thanks,

AndyH
__________________
I'm always looking for t206's with purple numbers stamped on the back like the one in my avatar.

The Great T206 Back Stamp Project: Click Here
My Online Trading Site: Click Here
Member of OBC (Old Baseball Cards), the longest running on-line collecting club www.oldbaseball.com
My Humble Blog: Click Here
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-06-2018, 10:32 PM
JollyElm's Avatar
JollyElm JollyElm is offline
D@rrΣn Hu.ghΣs
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 7,331
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CobbSpikedMe View Post
My apologies if this is a dumb question. I noticed that the first two cards you posted as comparisons and your card all have a white line on the left border. Do these three just happened to be Milton Bradley cards? Just curious as I'm not sure if the Ryan MB has the white line or not.

Thanks,

AndyH
These are all just regular Topps. I believe (could be wrong?) the MB versions don't have the crop line there, they have actual white where the 'mesh' background ends. That's always been my impression.

Edited to add: like this one...
66466009420719225.jpg
__________________
All the cool kids love my YouTube Channel:
Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land

https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm

Looking to trade? Here's my bucket:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706

“I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.”
Casey Stengel

Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s.

Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow.

Last edited by JollyElm; 10-06-2018 at 10:35 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-07-2018, 09:30 AM
GasHouseGang's Avatar
GasHouseGang GasHouseGang is offline
David M.
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: S. California
Posts: 2,854
Default

Well it's obviously OC, but maybe the grader thought it's either a 7OC or straight 5, and most people seem to prefer no qualifiers. So he just decided to make it a PSA 5.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-07-2018, 09:47 AM
CobbSpikedMe's Avatar
CobbSpikedMe CobbSpikedMe is offline
Andrew Hunt00n
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Belle Mead, NJ
Posts: 2,169
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JollyElm View Post
These are all just regular Topps. I believe (could be wrong?) the MB versions don't have the crop line there, they have actual white where the 'mesh' background ends. That's always been my impression.

Edited to add: like this one...
Attachment 330582
Thanks Darren. I wasn't sure if the Ryan had a Hot Rod or Football card next to it on the sheet so didn't know if it would have the white line and mesh on the left or the full white border.
__________________
I'm always looking for t206's with purple numbers stamped on the back like the one in my avatar.

The Great T206 Back Stamp Project: Click Here
My Online Trading Site: Click Here
Member of OBC (Old Baseball Cards), the longest running on-line collecting club www.oldbaseball.com
My Humble Blog: Click Here
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-07-2018, 10:25 AM
tschock tschock is offline
T@yl0r $ch0ck
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: NC
Posts: 1,391
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CobbSpikedMe View Post
Thanks Darren. I wasn't sure if the Ryan had a Hot Rod or Football card next to it on the sheet so didn't know if it would have the white line and mesh on the left or the full white border.
They are Topps for sure, not MBs. Once you start to see the white stripe, the MB cards will have white from there on out. You will never see any burlap on the 'outside' of the white line.
You can still find graded MB cards as Topps cards though.

Last edited by tschock; 10-07-2018 at 10:26 AM. Reason: add details
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-07-2018, 12:50 PM
CobbSpikedMe's Avatar
CobbSpikedMe CobbSpikedMe is offline
Andrew Hunt00n
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Belle Mead, NJ
Posts: 2,169
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tschock View Post
They are Topps for sure, not MBs. Once you start to see the white stripe, the MB cards will have white from there on out. You will never see any burlap on the 'outside' of the white line.
You can still find graded MB cards as Topps cards though.
Thanks Taylor! How you been bro?
__________________
I'm always looking for t206's with purple numbers stamped on the back like the one in my avatar.

The Great T206 Back Stamp Project: Click Here
My Online Trading Site: Click Here
Member of OBC (Old Baseball Cards), the longest running on-line collecting club www.oldbaseball.com
My Humble Blog: Click Here
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Technical Question: Member Mailbox clydepepper WaterCooler Talk- Off Topics 12 09-14-2017 11:43 AM
Technical question about the site edjs Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 6 07-05-2017 10:57 AM
Technical Question rocarroll Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 2 11-29-2014 05:15 PM
Technical Question About Posting Images Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 6 03-18-2009 07:59 AM
technical computer question Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 9 01-29-2003 07:30 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:35 AM.


ebay GSB