Is BVG really that bad?

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Posted By: Justin

The general consensus I have read on the net is that BVG is awful for grading. Anyone have any positive experiences?

I am basically planning to get low grade stuff for my collections, and I like the BVG case the best, so it seems to me the difference in grading between a PSA 1-3 and a BVG 1-3 would be nominal. Anyone care to comment?

thanks in advance Justin

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Posted By: Anonymous

Not so bad in the lower grades.



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Posted By: Dave

I don't think they are that bad of a grading company....better reputation than GAI...I just think they are associated moreso with modern cards. I don't know that I'd ever try selling pre-war cards slabbed by BVG...would crossover to PSA or SGC first for maximum profit...but if your not selling they are fine IMO

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Posted By: Anonymous

How many high grade T206 cards do you see graded by BVG? Very few, ive never even seen an 8. Even if you argue that people send all the NM-MT to PSA or sgc obviously BVG isnt letting any of the lower grade stuff sneek into those higher grades. There tougher then GAI, and have the most secure holder bar none.

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Posted By: Russ Bright

I have a couple BVG cards, I HATE the cases, as far as grading they seem to be OK, but the cases don't stack well, they're bulky, heavy, I'm always afraid of dropping them and losing a Toe...

from a purely aesthetic standpoint, I'm still an SGC fan

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Posted By: Judge Dred (Fred)

As far as storage goes you can cram more PSA slabs into a box than SGC and you can cram more SGC slabs into a box than you can BVG slabs. As for the important criteria, I think BVG does a decent job (or about on par) with SGC or PSA. I've seen a few weak BVG grades but then again I've seen some pretty shoddy grading by PSA also.

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Posted By: warshawlaw

They don't stack very well.

If I was doing a bunch of lower grade stuff, I'd go with SGC. Ask them for a price break if you have a lot; they are pretty good about that sort of thing. And the resale will be a lot better later, if that's an issue for you.

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Posted By: Brian

I have not had a problem with them so far--even in the mid-grades, the ones I have would compare favorably with the other 3 companies in terms of grade.

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Posted By: steve

Several years ago, through ebay, I purchased a 1934 Goudey Carl Hubbell, BVG 5.5 card. Thinking a lock for a PSA 6, I submitted to PSA as crossover with min. grade requirement "6". No go, PSA would not put it into a 6 slab. Still thinking it was too nice a card, I busted it out and submitted raw to PSA. This time it returned in a new PSA 6 slab. Side topic - Hubbell cards seem undervalued - he was quite dominant.

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Posted By: bigfish

I don't think Beckett is very good at all. I might buy a pre war card of theirs because they really don't have a handle on grading those types. Oftentimes, they undergrade cards. I still think SGC is the best. You always know what your getting with cards in their holders. Just my opinion.

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Posted By: Jim Dale

Just 2 cents - I can't tell ya good or bad on vintage (ie BVG) but their modern service is tops to me. I wouldn't even consider PSA in modern cards; and their registry is quite nice and easy to use.

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Posted By: Myron

How is that card in poor condition?

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Posted By: Marc S.

a T-206 Magee portrait EPDG back graded BVG 4.0 that is CLEARLY trimmed on at least three sides. I knew this when I purchased it -- and I have no clue how any grader at all, even a disreputable one, could miss it.

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Posted By: Rick McQuillan

My one experience with Beckett Grading was about 6 months ago. The cards graded about the way that I expected, but the customer service sucked. I didn't get the service that I paid for and the employee that I talked to on the phone was rude and uninformed about their specials. I had to email a scan of the ad before he admitted that they screwed up. You would have thought that they would have offered a couple of free submissions, but that didn't happen.

Rick

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Posted By: Dan Koteles

that a couple of monthe or so ago, they hired on a expert pre war grader. True or not, I do not have any problem with them as long as I like the sizing of the card. We all know which holders bring the most money. SO the pimps of the hobby are pimping to these grading companies and that is that , not much more fact then that.

The storyl of the morry is; I like BVG, and I like what I buy.

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Posted By: cmoking

I've bought two pre-war cards in BVG holders (that I can remember). I cracked them both out and sent them to PSA. One card graded the same....the other was knocked down a .5 grade, which isn't surprising since PSA doesn't have half grades. It's a very small tiny sample size, but at least it was two success stories.

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Posted By: barry arnold

Out of 490 different graded T206's i have 3 BVGs which I analyzed again and again
before purchasing. I think BVG can be ok but am wary. The vast majority of
the rest of the cards are SGC.

all the best,

Barry

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Posted By: Brett

I've never sent a card to be graded, but I have a BVG graded card. Those holders are pretty damn thick compared to PSA. When I baught my first PSA card, i was so surprised how thin the plastic holder was. BVG's are built like tanks lol.

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Posted By: Steve f

BVG, can be very strict. I like 'em better than GAI

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Posted By: quan

bgs/bvg might not be the best at detecting trimming and such...but they're as strict as anyone in term of giving out a numerical grade. i've had 3 bvg prewars and were happy with all 3...2 are stuck in my collection.