High-Grade T206 Drums?

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Posted By: MVSNYC

i already have a PSA 1...but, i might have an opportunity to trade one of my T206 PSA 8 commons for a T206 PSA 4 drum back...

which got me thinking...what is the highest graded Drum that any of you own or have seen? all i really ever see are 1's...some 2's and every now and then a 3...but i never see 4's or above...

i think it would be a pretty close trade, value-wise, but i would love to hear some of your opinions, please...

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Posted By: Dave

There has been a couple PSA 4 Drum 350's sold...a Warhop for $2000 and a Griffith (batting) for $4270.

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

Hi Michael,
The highest Graded Drum in existence is a PSA 7 of Clark Griffith Batting, there are a few 4's including a Speaker and a Johnson, but I haven't seen any 5's or 6's. I have seen 2 EX examples in old auction catalogs, but haven't seen them in person. I have 8 Drums at the moment, but all are 4 or under, these cards are tough in any condition, but in EX or better they are ultra tough.

Good luck Brian

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Posted By: Art M.

I believe Brian is correct on the highest graded T206 Drum. Here is the image:



I do not know the current owner of this card.
Art

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

Hi Art,
Thanks for the scan!!! I knew I could count on you.......


Be well Brian


PS About 90% of the known Drum examples are off center?????

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Posted By: MVSNYC

extremely helpful guys! thanks...

Brian, might you consider an attractive trade for one of your higher-graded drums?


MVS

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

Hi Michael,
I'm not selling or trading any of my Drum's right now, but trying to aquire more. Good luck Brian


PS I've always wanted to "find" 40-50 pristine Drums, but it hasn't happened yet....

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Posted By: Jim Rivera

just a note to add-it seems most Drums are low grade a there are more of them with Sweeney on the front than any other that I have seen.
there was another Sweeney at Reading this past weekend.
I own 3 Drums -1 PSA 4 and a SGC 40 and 1 raw that is probably a grade 1.

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Posted By: joe Brennan

I've asked this question before and never got a response. Were the Drum cigarettes higher priced than Piedmont or were the cigarettes so bad tasting that no body purchased them and thats why drum backs are so rare? Or was the production run of cards so short that they are rare? Can the scarcity of the backs be traced to a horrible product or just expensive packs? Thanks for any replies. Joe

People said it was a million dollar wound. But the government must keep that money, cause I ain't never seen a penny of it.

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

Hi Joe,
Drum was a discount Brand of Cigs, selling 20 for 5 cents as opposed to Piedmont or Sweet Cap which were 10 for 5. The Drum Brand was purchased by the ATC in 1907 or 08 and converted from a loose tobacco brand into a discount Cigarette brand, so they probably weren't well known or advertized, and probably produced in low numbers.

be well Brian

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Posted By: MVSNYC

...i'm waiting in line at time warner cable in NYC, getting a new HDTV box for my new flat screen...and low and behold, they have several computers with internet for free!

anyway, thanks for everyone's responses...my friend did not yet want to trade his drum PSA 4, but assures me that someday soon, we will trade, he just wants to hold onto it for awhile, i can't blame him...i did manage to get a UZIT SGC 40 from him however...

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Posted By: joe brennan

Thanks Brian.

People said it was a million dollar wound. But the government must keep that money, cause I ain't never seen a penny of it.

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

Hi Mike,
Congrats on the Uzit!! Which Player and pose? I need to make sure I have him on record.

PS Once you go HD, you can't go back. I can hardly watch a game that's not in HD, I am way too spoiled.

Stay warm Brian

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Posted By: MVSNYC

i'll hook up the HD-DVR box tomorrow...i just got in from a crazy busy day, also had to have tekserve look at my laptop...then dinner, then a movie...now that my girlfriend is sleeping...i have some T206's laid out on the sofa...uzits, drum, red hindu, o'hara...some PSA 8's...god, i love this hobby...

to answer your question:

Uzit SGC 40, hooks wiltse, port w/cap

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Uzit PSA 1, neal ball, cleveland

if you need to know other rare back players let me know...i have every brand represented...