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12-31-2016, 12:27 PM
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The best explanation I ever herd went something like this: Amphetamines were taken with the intent of being able to perform the way you normally would. Steroids were taken with the intent of performing better than you ever could.
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Also, if anyone thinks that steroids were non-existent in major sports in the 70s when the East Germans had a systematic doping program in place since 73' is delusional to me. The money and importance of performance was enough to have had players experiment, esp after the 76 Olympics. Lyle Alzado was open about taking them his entire career starting in college in 1969'. If a college kid could find them, a Pro sure as heck could. Yes, not saying they did, but The Mick, Clemente and even Aaron all had ample opportunity. Hell, Pud Galvin is the first admitted anabolic juicer in 1889!
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I think neither should be, but I will add this. The enhancement received by Bonds was staggering compared to Clemens. Bonds's head looked like a pumpkin in his steroid years, and his body was twice the size when he was younger. When Clemens was 20 yrs old, he was leaner and struck out 20 in a game. Both have question marks, but Bonds is a much larger issue IMO compared to what his career would have been without the huge help....
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As an aside, Barry Bonds surely is the greatest player in history who never acquired a nickname (other than a few late career sarcastic ones).
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01-02-2017, 09:19 PM
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Probably because nicknames tend to be endearing terms and Bonds was never thought of with much regard. Wouldn't surprise me to hear a story of a teammate trying and Bonds being a humorless dick about it.
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