1909-11 T206 Honus Wagner vs. 1911-16 Kotton Honus Wagner: Who Has More?

[Orioles1954]

Originally Posted by Leon

I think that we have had this discussion quite a few times and it might be the reason for the lack of enthusiasm. No doubt, in my mind, that any of the T216 wagners are exponentially more rare than the T206 Wags.

I must repeat at least 100x a yr, to someone with a rare card, that the rarity of their card is only part of the value equation and is, most times, the lesser part. It is almost entirely (90%?) about demand, with respect to value. It's just the fact. If it wasn't then I would be a lot richer than I am ......

"The only thing rarer than this item is a buyer"--Bill Huggins

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Orioles1954

"The only thing rarer than this item is a buyer"--Bill Huggins

Now that's funny......I love it!!

[scottglevy]

Ok,

So now that we're on the topic of T216s ... please dole out a little more education for novices like myself....

Where do the Kotton / Mino / Virginia Extras stack up against each other in terms of relative rarity.

What's the deal with the thick vs. thin varieties? Anyone know how and why this happened -- and which is more collected (I assume thicker would be).

Regards,
Scott

[rman444]

Originally Posted by scottglevy

Where do the Kotton / Mino / Virginia Extras stack up against each other in terms of relative rarity.

What's the deal with the thick vs. thin varieties? Anyone know how and why this happened -- and which is more collected (I assume thicker would be).

Scott,

There are probably a handful of threads that can be found with the search function that talk about T216s and all of the different varieties. However, the short of it is:

T216 Kotton - 3 types. Types 1 and 2 are thicker stock with 2 different backs. These are the most commonly found T216s, although commonly is relative as even these are extremely difficult compared to most other T issues. These are also the least condition sensitive due to the thicker stock - usually found in VG condition. Type 3 is, in my opinion, a whole different issue with a different back and extremely thin paper stock. They are much tougher than the first two types and are almost always found in deplorable condition.



T216 Mino - Similar in paper stock to Kotton types 1 and 2. However, these seem to be found in lesser condition, on average (G to VG). Compared to Kottons, Minos are much much tougher.



T216 Virginia Extra - Similar in paper stock to Kotton type 3's. These are also found in deplorable condition, often missing big chunks. VE's are even tougher than Minos.

I guess that wasn't so short, but hopefully it explains a little.

Any T216 experts out there, please feel free to correct.