NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-24-2015, 12:14 PM
BBB BBB is offline
Bryan
Bryan Bossa.rd
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: California
Posts: 166
Default T206 HOF Back Multiplier: Middleground?

Although this topic has been discussed, I have to ask...

Why not have a happy middle? I'd think one could cut the regular multiplier in half and get a fairly adequate idea of how the HOF cards could be valuated.

I'm painfully biased as I have a couple semi-sorta-kinda-rare backs (Old Mill, Sovereign, Sweet Cap. Fact 42, Sweet Cap Overprint). Among them a Walter Johnson PSA 2.5, Nap Lajoie Portrait PSA 3 and a Christy White Cap PSA 5 (along with others). According to the regular multiplier the values go up to x1.8 if they were commons, but x0 if they are HOFers.

Surely the market would command a small premium for HOF semi-sorta-kinda rare backs? If I saw my Walter Johnson Old Mill and a Walter Johnson Piedmont Fact 25 of the same grade for the same price, I'd buy the Old Mill every time. I'm thinking most folks would. Shouldn't there be a slightly higher value if that is the supply/demand?

Maybe I'm just bitter that when I first heard about the rare backs years ago and flipped my cards over I discovered nothing mind blowing
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-29-2015, 02:58 PM
Leon's Avatar
Leon Leon is offline
Leon
peasant/forum owner
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: near Dallas
Posts: 34,386
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BBB View Post
Although this topic has been discussed, I have to ask...

Why not have a happy middle? I'd think one could cut the regular multiplier in half and get a fairly adequate idea of how the HOF cards could be valuated.

I'm painfully biased as I have a couple semi-sorta-kinda-rare backs (Old Mill, Sovereign, Sweet Cap. Fact 42, Sweet Cap Overprint). Among them a Walter Johnson PSA 2.5, Nap Lajoie Portrait PSA 3 and a Christy White Cap PSA 5 (along with others). According to the regular multiplier the values go up to x1.8 if they were commons, but x0 if they are HOFers.

Surely the market would command a small premium for HOF semi-sorta-kinda rare backs? If I saw my Walter Johnson Old Mill and a Walter Johnson Piedmont Fact 25 of the same grade for the same price, I'd buy the Old Mill every time. I'm thinking most folks would. Shouldn't there be a slightly higher value if that is the supply/demand?

Maybe I'm just bitter that when I first heard about the rare backs years ago and flipped my cards over I discovered nothing mind blowing
I think the market sets the price on the not-so-difficult-but-a-little-better backs. I also think a fair amount of collectors would pay a few dollars more for an Old Mill back on a Hall of Famer than a more common Piedmont or Sweet Cap back. I am not sure a multiplier would work unless it was a small bit. Maybe 1.04x for a Hall of Famer with an Old Mill.

And your disappointment is the other end of the spectrum on finding a rare back. If everyone found them they wouldn't be rare.
__________________
Leon Luckey
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-29-2015, 03:06 PM
Luke's Avatar
Luke Luke is offline
Luke Lyon
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Seattle
Posts: 3,962
Default

I pay a premium for the Sovereign, Old Mill, and EPDG backs I'm looking for. I like them more, so it makes sense to offer or bid more for them.
__________________
ThatT206Life.com
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-29-2015, 03:36 PM
Sean's Avatar
Sean Sean is offline
Sean Costello
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Woodland, California
Posts: 3,815
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leon View Post

And your disappointment is the other end of the spectrum on finding a rare back. If everyone found them they wouldn't be rare.
This sentiment reminds me of what everyone says when I tell them I collect baseball cards: " I wish my mom hadn't thrown away all my cards. They would be worth so much now."

Yeah, but they're only valuable because so many were thrown away. If we all saved them, they wouldn't be rare and thus valuable.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-29-2015, 05:30 PM
ullmandds's Avatar
ullmandds ullmandds is offline
pete ullman
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: saint paul, mn
Posts: 11,266
Default

There is definitely a premium paid for non commonest backs...I'd pay a premium. This trend will only continue to increase.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-29-2015, 08:20 PM
BBB BBB is offline
Bryan
Bryan Bossa.rd
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: California
Posts: 166
Default On 2nd thought ...

Totally dig the notion that if it were easy to find, then why would it be special. Happy to hear many would still pay a minor premium for these.

And yes - I want my 1.04 multiplier to be official lol

Who could have predicted back in the late 80s (when I started collecting) that we'd see a time when finding a walter Johnson t206 wouldn't be an issue but rather a selection process with lots available on the web at any given moment. I suppose it is precisely this abundance of access that makes going for rare backs and odd print defects the last bastion of scarcity thus driving up interest and value.
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
rare back multiplier darwinbulldog Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 8 03-13-2014 02:06 PM
Wanted Dead or Alive... T206 Seymour Drum Back, Blank Back, Red Hindu Blunder19 Tobacco (T) cards, except T206 B/S/T 0 08-10-2011 07:01 PM
WTB: T206 Ty Cobb back and Herzog (Boston) rare back Archive Tobacco (T) cards, except T206 B/S/T 0 12-09-2008 12:29 AM
T206 back variations: price multiplier and scarcity Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 0 06-13-2006 08:51 PM
How much of a value multiplier is a Brown Hindu Back? Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 6 06-06-2002 08:01 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:27 AM.


ebay GSB