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Old 10-27-2014, 11:35 PM
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Default Explanation of Wide Pen Types

I have recently purchased a few Goudey Wide Pens. I like the images of these and other premiums from this era and their affordability make them attractive to me. I have begun trying to learn more about the set but have only found rather limited information. On listings of these cards on eBay and elsewhere I have seen references to Type 1 and Type 4 but no explanation of the differences between the types. I assume there must be Types 2 & 3 as well but have not seen any cards designated as such. Can any of you help and explain the differences.

Here is what I have picked up so far:


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Old 10-28-2014, 02:30 PM
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Hi, I collected the Detroit players, but have since sold them all.

These are the different types:

1 - With Litho in USA Glossy finish B & W
2 - Without Litho in USA Glossy finish B & W with border
3 - Without Litho in USA Glossy finish B & W No border
4 - without Litho in USA Glossy finish Creamy, medium pen signature
5 - without Litho in USA Dull finish Creamy.

Each player does not have all the variations.

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Thanks for the information Joe.
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Here is a type 3 "no border" Joe Cronin.
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Thanks George and Jeff. The image examples help a lot!
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Type 5 dull finish or just another four?

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Default 1937 R314 = Types 5 and 4 --just ignore PSA's flips




....the ''washed out'' is really well-named... Greenberg is the only player to be in all 5 types ...
I've noticed PSA gets about 20 % of my submissions mis-labeled . The kids in Joe's basement do not know vintage...
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I don't remember if it was VCBC or Old Cardboard, but one of them did a long, great article (it may have even been a series of articles) on these issues, explaining in great detail the differences, etc. Track it down if you can...definitely worth reading.
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