Tickets

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by megalimey

as always Scott great insight to both variations of ticket ,if it is an important game I take what ever I can, stub or the much rarer occasion a Full untorn/punched ticket , on the other hand I personally have no interest in any of the Full or stub phantom tickets for games never played , or printers proof tickets that have no seat assignment/serial number therefor not valid for any game. these are mostly found as a full ticket
But i realize and except that some people like and collect them.

I personally never collect phantom tickets or tickets with no seat number as well. However, one exception is a box seat where there are no seat numbers ever used in an entire section. Here are two examples of tickets like I described. Nolan Ryan's 2nd no-hitter game in DET (Happy Birthday, Nolan Ryan, he's 70 today), and a rare box seat in the spendy section for Johnny Vander Meer's 2nd consecutive no-hitter). No seat numbers because of the section in the stadium.

[megalimey]

Originally Posted by Scott Garner

I personally never collect phantom tickets or tickets with no seat number as well. However, one exception is a box seat where there are no seat numbers ever used in an entire section. Here are two examples of tickets like I described. Nolan Ryan's 2nd no-hitter game in DET (Happy Birthday, Nolan Ryan, he's 70 today), and a rare box seat in the spendy section for Johnny Vander Meer's 2nd consecutive no-hitter). No seat numbers because of the section in the stadium.

wow I love the that Dodgers ticket and I never knew that his second no Hitter was the first night game at Ebetts Field, do you think that may have thrown off the Dodgers hitters where they may have had a problem with seeing the ball ?
I have never seen an actual game ticket for that game any idea of value ?(I know its not for sale) has to be worth more than many of the Koufax No Hitters I would think ??

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by megalimey

wow I love the that Dodgers ticket and I never knew that his second no Hitter was the first night game at Ebetts Field, do you think that may have thrown off the Dodgers hitters where they may have had a problem with seeing the ball ?
I have never seen an actual game ticket for that game any idea of value ?(I know its not for sale) has to be worth more than many of the Koufax No Hitters I would think ??

The lighting undoubtedly played a small part in the no-hitter, but night baseball was not unknown to the NL in 1938. The Cincinnati Reds had hosted 12 night baseball games a year since 1935.

The most recent realized prices for Vander Meer's 2nd no-hitter have hovered between $4500- $6,000 ballpark

[mcgwirecom]

As for full tickets with holes punched...I don't believe they are "used". I was told with regard to vintage LA Dodgers tickets as well as a few others, the holes were punched before they were given to a ticketholder as they were "comp" tickets. Meaning of course that they were not charged for them (possibly players families, etc) the holes were so they could not try to trade them back in for a refund. Thats the reason you see a lot of full tickets with holes. The holder did not pay anything and therefore if they couldn't go to the game they didn't lose any money nor could they trade them for another date. So they are still a full, unused ticket.

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by mcgwirecom

As for full tickets with holes punched...I don't believe they are "used". I was told with regard to vintage LA Dodgers tickets as well as a few others, the holes were punched before they were given to a ticketholder as they were "comp" tickets. Meaning of course that they were not charged for them (possibly players families, etc) the holes were so they could not try to trade them back in for a refund. Thats the reason you see a lot of full tickets with holes. The holder did not pay anything and therefore if they couldn't go to the game they didn't lose any money nor could they trade them for another date. So they are still a full, unused ticket.

Correct, Randall!

[icollectDCsports]

Hmm. I had understood that at least some untorn, punched tickets were punched at the gates and were therefore used. I can see how some teams may have punched freebies for the reasons stated above, but do some then believe that all untorn, punched tickets are unused freebies? Just seeking clarification because I'm learning here. Thanks for everyone's insight.

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by icollectDCsports

Hmm. I had understood that at least some untorn, punched tickets were punched at the gates and were therefore used. I can see how some teams may have punched freebies for the reasons stated above, but do some then believe that all untorn, punched tickets are unused freebies? Just seeking clarification because I'm learning here. Thanks for everyone's insight.

Punched tickets = complimentary tickets and are/were called "Annie Oakley's" (like they were shot by a gun) by people in the ticket office and by some ticket collectors.