Show Some OJ Subsets

[Webster]

Recently upgraded a few of the Brown's Champions. Would love to see how others collect the set that definitely is not for set collectors.

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[Leon]

Mascot...

[Webster]

Leon - that's a beauty, but don't you need the Willie Hahm for the full subset? (I have seen a picture of one in book once...closest I will get).

A related, very small, subset:

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[packs]

I no longer own this card but I did have a mini for a while:

[jcmtiger]

Detroit 1887 champs

[spiegz11]

Love the OJ cards. I went for the 300 game winners.

-Steve

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by spiegz11

Love the OJ cards. I went for the 300 game winners.
-Steve

While Old Hoss Radbourn enjoys flipping things off, I like flipping images over.

Brian

[GeoPoto]

John A. "Jack" Farrell. "Moose". Second baseman with the Washington Nationals in 1886-1887. 877 hits and 23 home runs in 11 MLB seasons. He debuted with the Syracuse Stars in 1879. His best season was 1883 with the Providence Grays as he posted a .329 OBP with 92 runs scored in 435 plate appearances. He was the second baseman for the Providence Gray's in 1879-1885, a consistently good team that won the pennant in 1879 and 1884. He last played for the Baltimore Orioles in 1888-1889. In 1881, he managed the Providence Grays.

I have 5 of the Farrell, Washington poses and an image that appears to have been made from the same plate as a sixth pose:

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[Fred]

Treadway run. Poses 1 - 5

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[RCMcKenzie]

Nice cards, all. I collect by player. I also collect OJ subjects that once played for New Orleans or Houston. Here's a Gillespie run I did a few years ago. Also, here's a Hess Curt Welch that I got last year, so I'm collecting Welch cards now, along with many other subjects.

[Webster]

Always wish this pose could be found in modern sets.

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[RCMcKenzie]

That's a nice run of standing bats.

Here's a Billy Crowell pose 2 with St Joes.

Crowell played for New Orleans in 1892 and Houston in 1899, so that's why I collect his cards. See 1892 New Orleans Team Photo with Crowell.


I still need pose 1 Clev and St. Joes, pose 4 St. Joes, and pose 5 Cleve


This card, the pose 2 St Joes, was listed on eBay by iconsportscards. I looked at my notes and it was not on my wantlist. I checked my cards and did not have it. I looked in the OJ guide and it's not on there. This may have already been noticed, but I wanted to point out that all 5 Crowell cards come as St Joes or Clev. The OJ guide is great, and I would not know what cards to look for without it.

[alywa]

Here's the HOF Subset

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[alywa]

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Plus a 1890 Players League Version

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Plus Tim and his evil Doppelgänger Jim from 1888
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[alywa]

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[alywa]

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[alywa]

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[BobbyStrawberry]

nevermind

[alywa]

And the ultimate "will never be finished" run... 2/9 Deacon Whites

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[alywa]

Sort of cheating here as they aren't all OJ, but they are OJ Adjacent and pretty

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[alywa]

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[Schwertfeger1007]

Well I'm certainly not going to try and follow that! LOL

[alywa]

Here are the 3 winners of the Triple Crown from the 19th Century

1878 Paul Hines 4/50/.358
1887 Tip O’Neil 14/123/.435
1894 Hugh Duffy 18/145/.440

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[alywa]

Originally Posted by Schwertfeger1007

Well I'm certainly not going to try and follow that! LOL

Come on... you have some amazing pairings!

[ccre]

OMG ... I can't stop drooling. Well done.

Originally Posted by alywa

Here's the HOF Subset

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[brianp-beme]

I am always willing to follow a motherload of great cards. Here is my Ezra Sutton run. It has been a top collecting priority for a very long time. To give you a closer idea about how long I have been working on it, I believe the Old Judge shown cost me $13.00, plus a Self Addressed Stamped Envelope (SASE... acronyms existed back then as well).

Brian

[midmo]

I'm basically picking up different types for my Brooklyn collection.

[Exhibitman]

Too much?

[Fred]

Too funny...

[spiegz11]

Originally Posted by alywa

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Amazing Pud Galvin subset! I have seen the Galvin hands at waist variation with the Old Judge Cigarettes wording to the right of his face and others with the same photo that have the wording to the left of his face. Does anyone have thoughts on whether the location of the Old Judge Cigarettes wording on cards with the same picture are considered separate variations?

Steve

[oldjudge]

Originally Posted by midmo

I'm basically picking up different types for my Brooklyn collection.

Great group Justin. Here is a scarce red mount Dave Orr with the only copy of that pose that I have seen.

[oldjudge]

Originally Posted by spiegz11

Amazing Pud Galvin subset! I have seen the Galvin hands at waist variation with the Old Judge Cigarettes wording to the right of his face and others with the same photo that have the wording to the left of his face. Does anyone have thoughts on whether the location of the Old Judge Cigarettes wording on cards with the same picture are considered separate variations?

Steve

Any difference between cards is a variation. In my mind a variation like this is more significant than a team spelling variation (Omaha vs Omahas) but less significant than an actual team change (Detroit to Boston) and certainly less significant than a pose change. If I was doing a player run in the set I would try to get all variations, no matter how minor.

[alywa]

Originally Posted by spiegz11

Amazing Pud Galvin subset! I have seen the Galvin hands at waist variation with the Old Judge Cigarettes wording to the right of his face and others with the same photo that have the wording to the left of his face. Does anyone have thoughts on whether the location of the Old Judge Cigarettes wording on cards with the same picture are considered separate variations?

Steve

Cool. They are both 1887, I don't have Jay's book in front of me right now, but if I remember correctly yours is an 0 number type B (script), mine is an 0 number type A. I don't know of the logo placement difference is due to the subtype or different runs of the same type (in other words is there a Type A with the other logo placement or not)

[midmo]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Great group Justin. Here is a scarce red mount Dave Orr with the only copy of that pose that I have seen.

Wow, that is awesome. I've never seen it before. Thanks for posting it.

[Leon]

Some really great looking cards in this thread. I only have a few to ever show. I am mainly a 20th century collector now.

[Schwertfeger1007]

I appreciate Keith (Alywa) showing some of his gorgeous subsets!

It's interesting that the few big 19th Century collectors that I know tend to be very private and only "show off" cards they are looking to sell.

Outside of a book that was written 15 years ago, you rarely see the rarer cards of the era (Cabinets, KBats, GQ's, 4BH ect). It's a shame so many of these cards are hidden away and most hobby enthusiasts will never get to see these beautiful pieces of history.

Maybe it's generational but I love looking through 20th Century collections on Flickr (shout out to Ryan, Sonny, Jeff ect.) and I wish more of the "old timer" 19th century collectors would create similar visual galleries of their collections which would in turn bring more interest and appreciation to what I feel are the coolest cards ever made.

[Schwertfeger1007]

Here's my examples of the 4 greatest pitchers of the 19th Century.

Order is debatable but here's how I rank them:

[alywa]

That Radbourn Portrait is excellent! Cool stuff, Brian.

[ternst17]

I’m collecting the Des Moines team. This is the last group photo I took, I’ve added 6 more since then so I’m currently up to 23 cards.

[Webster]

I know there are a couple of Board members with many more poses on hand, but here are the Louisville players I know of. (Don't have a checklist, so feel free to note any omissions). One cheat: Kelly's Umpire Card. Have never seen his Louisville card for sale; and one dupe of Chicken Wolf - because Chicken.

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