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Old 01-26-2017, 02:39 PM
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I believe that I have a card which may debunk some of this, or at least adds some level of confusion to what you are trying to unravel.

It has scratches that cross each other or don't go in the direction of the ones that are in the image.

I can't remember the player. I would need to look.

Also, how can you be sure that a given card belongs in the position you have it in when the line on the card cuts through another card in the same spot?

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Old 01-26-2017, 04:31 PM
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I believe that I have a card which may debunk some of this, or at least adds some level of confusion to what you are trying to unravel.

It has scratches that cross each other or don't go in the direction of the ones that are in the image.

I can't remember the player. I would need to look.

Also, how can you be sure that a given card belongs in the position you have it in when the line on the card cuts through another card in the same spot?
Without seeing the card I can't be sure but you might be talking about one
from another plate scratch sheet. There are four that have scratches that
cross each other from different directions on three different sheets.

There is a Seymour on this sheet
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A Doyle and Stone on this sheet
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Sheet%20C-D%20Highlighted%20-%20Copy%20-%20Copy.jpg

And a Cobb on this sheet
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I'm not sure if this is what you're referring to with your other question but the back of the sheet in this
thread was used for two different fronts so there are two subjects with the same scratch for each position.
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Old 01-26-2017, 04:42 PM
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Yes. I am referring ones that you have shown.

I still see room for some of them to be transposed with other positions, but admittedly haven't studied everything THAT hard to take an opposing view.
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Yes. I am referring ones that you have shown.

I still see room for some of them to be transposed with other positions, but admittedly haven't studied everything THAT hard to take an opposing view.
There are similar scratches in different positions but they don't work if you try to rearrange them. Some of the closest matches are Weimer/Pastorius with Powell/Goode and Criger/Davis,H. with Hinchman/Sheckard. I Have most of these cards in hand and I've experimented with them in different positions before I established this layout.
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There is also a miscut SC150 Sheckard that shows part of Wilbur Goode.
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I just picked up a new previously unconfirmed Weimer scratch that fits
the pattern of one of the three rows of scratches on this sheet.
The scratches from this row are difficult to spot because this scratch
is consistently much lighter than the other two.
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Nice work here, Pat.
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I just picked up a new previously unconfirmed Weimer scratch that fits
the pattern of one of the three rows of scratches on this sheet.
The scratches from this row are difficult to spot because this scratch
is consistently much lighter than the other two.
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Old 05-24-2017, 01:31 AM
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Some of the cards in your image don't have any marks on them. How are you determining that those players go in those spots? Assuming miss cut cards and double names?

Also, your analysis would mean that they printed 2 piedmont 150 sheets of 4 rows of 17 and 1 sheet with a 9th row of 20.

What is the theory on the remaining cards? 17 plus the 3 wonders(Magie, Plank and Wagner)?
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