OT: Aaron Hernandez Commits Suicide

[clydepepper]

What pisses me off about this is that his lawyer came out with a statement implying that he would never had committed suicide, even though there were a number of things jammed up against the cell door - from the inside - keeping anyone from stopping him from what he decided to do.

Isn't it time for him and all those who believed in Hernandez to finally admit that they really did not know him as well as they thought?

[58pinson]

AMF. And I don't mean adios my friend!

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

I think someone said in a movie once, "Pantangeli's small potatoes."

I live for the day that those two freaks that did that home invasion in Connecticut a few years ago are found dead in their cells - and not from hanging.

[Snapolit1]

Killed some hard working dude who accidentally bumped into him at a club. Unreal. No tears shed here that this guy is off the earth.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Killed some hard working dude who accidentally bumped into him at a club. Unreal. No tears shed here that this guy is off the earth.

Wow. The court of public opinion's lack of faith in the judicial system can be breathtaking sometimes.

[Snapolit1]

Don't know what that last comment means. He was convicted of first degree murder, was he not? Maybe I'm confusing the facts of what he was convicted of. And just because someone was not convicted of a crime does not mean he didn't do it. It means his guilt could not be established by the State beyond a reasonable doubt. See OJ Simpson.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Don't know what that last comment means. He was convicted of first degree murder, was he not?

The first murder charge, yes. The second, where the drink spilling occurred, he was just acquitted on.

[mark evans]

Trash. Glad to see he's gone.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Don't know what that last comment means. He was convicted of first degree murder, was he not? Maybe I'm confusing the facts of what he was convicted of. And just because someone was not convicted of a crime does not mean he didn't do it. It means his guilt could not be established by the State beyond a reasonable doubt. See OJ Simpson.

However there appeared to be a lot more doubt on that second case versus the OJ case in terms of whether a guilty verdict was expected.

I know i would of been shocked that he would of been found guilty in that second murder trial considering the terrible witnesses involved etc. The OJ case to me it was more shocking of a not guilty verdict even though not totally shocking. I think you cant compare those two cases.

[HercDriver]

A gain for society. They should have more sheets in prison, with hooks from the ceiling and how-to videos. I grew up in Chicago and it makes me sick to see the scum that kill innocent people.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by conor912

Wow. The court of public opinion's lack of faith in the judicial system can be breathtaking sometimes.

Yes but it has been well earned.

I feel sorry for everyone involved. No matter how bad someone is there are people that loved them and will miss them dearly.

[Jason]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Yes but it has been well earned.

I feel sorry for everyone involved. No matter how bad someone is there are people that loved them and will miss them dearly.

I agree with you Ben. They consequences of ones actions are felt by family maybe more than the individual themselves.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

What pisses me off about this is that his lawyer came out with a statement implying that he would never had committed suicide, even though there were a number of things jammed up against the cell door - from the inside - keeping anyone from stopping him from what he decided to do.

Isn't it time for him and all those who believed in Hernandez to finally admit that they really did not know him as well as they thought?

Guilty or not I'm not buying that this was a suicide. It seems just as likely that the number of things jammed up against the door were staged to help someone else get away with murder.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Guilty or not I'm not buying that this was a suicide. It seems just as likely that the number of things jammed up against the door were staged to help someone else get away with murder.

The items were, reportedly, jammed up against the door on the INSIDE and he was in a single person cell...come on Sherlock...think!

[packs]

I don't really understand the conspiracy theories either. I mean, this guy was HUGE. It would take more than one person to subdue him enough to hang him and I don't hear anyone reporting any external injuries on him.

[drcy]

Always expect conspiracy theories.

I remember when a collector showed me an original item he'd won at auction that he was worried was a fake. He brought up all these details, which I said weren't a problem. I finally said "You're just going to have to accept the fact that it's authentic."

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

The items were, reportedly, jammed up against the door on the INSIDE and he was in a single person cell...come on Sherlock...think!

Don't let the facts get in the way of baseless speculation now.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

The items were, reportedly, jammed up against the door on the INSIDE and he was in a single person cell...come on Sherlock...think!

Who reported that? A prison official? Has anyone seen proof of what was jammed up against the door, or that only Hernandez could have done it? If that has been released I haven't seen it. Until then I will have my doubts. If nothing else the timing alone is suspicious.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Who reported that? A prison official? Has anyone seen proof of what was jammed up against the door, or that only Hernandez could have done it? If that has been released I haven't seen it. Until then I will have my doubts. If nothing else the timing alone is suspicious.

My God, can we please move off of Hernandez? He was a piece of garbage, period....Also, the timing of his suicide could be in accordance with his former team going to the White House on the same day..Depression maybe?

[jb217676]

I just saw this card. Polar opposites I guess.

[CMIZ5290]

This is just too much....If you made a movie about it nobody would believe it. ESPN in the last two days has consumed their programming with this animal. Please people forget the fact that he was a great NFL tight end, he was an absolute thug that had tons of money, but still wanted to be a thug...I feel bad for his 4 yr. old daughter, but screw him big time...

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Who reported that? A prison official? Has anyone seen proof of what was jammed up against the door, or that only Hernandez could have done it? If that has been released I haven't seen it. Until then I will have my doubts. If nothing else the timing alone is suspicious.

Guess the medical examiner/DA's office who ruled it a suicide are in on the plot, and the three suicide notes they found are fake too.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Guess the medical examiner/DA's office who ruled it a suicide are in on the plot, and the three suicide notes they found are fake too.

+1 big time, this is just too much......Move on people!

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Guess the medical examiner/DA's office who ruled it a suicide are in on the plot, and the three suicide notes they found are fake too.

It was initially reported that there was no suicide note. Now they found not only 1, but 3. If I see a hand writing analyst's report that he did write the letters I will believe it. For now I have my doubts.

If he knew this was the only way to pass his estate to his daughter, because his first conviction would be vacated, then the timing and suicide make sense.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

It was initially reported that there was no suicide note. Now they found not only 1, but 3. If I see a hand writing analyst's report that he did write the letters I will believe it. For now I have my doubts.

If he knew this was the only way to pass his estate to his daughter, because his first conviction would be vacated, then the timing and suicide make sense.

It's a conspiracy!! And the DA is part of the cover up.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

It was initially reported that there was no suicide note. Now they found not only 1, but 3. If I see a hand writing analyst's report that he did write the letters I will believe it. For now I have my doubts.

If he knew this was the only way to pass his estate to his daughter, because his first conviction would be vacated, then the timing and suicide make sense.

I know some handwriting analyst's who will say anything about anyone's handwriting. We have discussed all their attributes on Net54.