Question on grading

[obcbobd]

Hi,

I've the following Leaf Musial which has pretty good eye appeal and was thinking of getting it graded, in preparation for a sale. I've very little experience with grading and was wondering if the stamp on the back would automatically cause it to grade poor by either PSA or SGC.

any thoughts?

thanks

Bob

[Eggoman]

My thoughts - for what they are worth - are that you will NOT automatically receive a "POOR" grade, but PSA will give you an "MK" qualifier. SGC does NOT so designate cards with marks.

If you are selling it, I would have it graded, but I would GUESS that you would not get better than a PSA 4 VG-EX...

Again, just MY opinion!

Good luck!

[glchen]

I think I see a slight vertical surface crease on the card, so depending on how strong it is in hand, I think you would receive a 2 or 3 grade with the MK qualifier from PSA. SGC typically drops cards with marks down to 20/1.5 (Fair) grades, so not exactly sure how they will treat the stamp. I assume they will still say it's a mark, and go with 20/1.5.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Eggoman

My thoughts - for what they are worth - are that you will NOT automatically receive a "POOR" grade, but PSA will give you an "MK" qualifier. SGC does NOT so designate cards with marks.

If you are selling it, I would have it graded, but I would GUESS that you would not get better than a PSA 4 VG-EX...

Again, just MY opinion!

Good luck!

No way this card grades a '4'. I have the exact same card up for sale, and mine is a '4' WITHOUT a mark on the back. No way are those two cards equal.

[bobbyw8469]

[Eggoman]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

No way this card grades a '4'. I have the exact same card up for sale, and mine is a '4' WITHOUT a mark on the back. No way are those two cards equal.

AGREED...upon further review! I DID say NOT BETTER THAN, but you are right!

[glchen]

That's a pretty nice 4, Bobby. I'm not sure if there's some sort of wrinkle that downgraded that card, but it looks nice enough for a 5 or even 6. I wouldn't be totally surprised if Bob's card got a 4MK even with a surface wrinkle. I think you saw the 3.5 for the T206 that was graded earlier today on the main forum.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by glchen

That's a pretty nice 4, Bobby. I'm not sure if there's some sort of wrinkle that downgraded that card, but it looks nice enough for a 5 or even 6. I wouldn't be totally surprised if Bob's card got a 4MK even with a surface wrinkle. I think you saw the 3.5 for the T206 that was graded earlier today on the main forum.

Thanks Gary. I really thought it would '6' or '7' when I sent it in. I'm not a huge fan of the crackout game, so I just keep it as is, state it's undergraded and ask for a premium. One time I recently played the crackout game on a Bradshaw '4' I had. I was forced to, because the case has gotten damaged with some residue I couldn't get off. I thought it was an undergraded '4'. I sent it back in and got a '6'. But not a fan of crackouts.

[obcbobd]

Originally Posted by glchen

I think I see a slight vertical surface crease on the card, so depending on how strong it is in hand, I think you would receive a 2 or 3 grade with the MK qualifier from PSA. SGC typically drops cards with marks down to 20/1.5 (Fair) grades, so not exactly sure how they will treat the stamp. I assume they will still say it's a mark, and go with 20/1.5.

No crease or wrinkle. The picture I uploaded, from my iphone is the card in a penny sleeve and toploader. I think what looks like a wrinkle is from the penny sleeve.

Anyways, I'll probably grade it with PSA, knowing that I won't automatically get a 1.

Thanks for all the feedback

Bob

[bobbyw8469]

And no...no surface wrinkle or anything. You can see really huge scans on the auction. I'm pricing it high, because it looks way better than a '4'. It's worth every penny.

[Eggoman]

Originally Posted by obcbobd

Anyways, I'll probably grade it with PSA, knowing that I won't automatically get a 1.

Let us know! I'm curious to know what PSA thinks....

[tschock]

Geez... everyone's hung up on the grade (j/k) , but one thing not mentioned yet that for this type of card, ANY grade will help in establishing that the card is authentic, which could easily assist with a sale at any level (though obviously more so the better the condition).

[obcbobd]

Finally, got it back today, about a month after sending it in. Got a 5(mk), about what I expected

[Stonepony]

I would say you did well

[jimivintage]

Nice, Bob! It does look a lot nicer in the slab than the original pic you published.

[Shoebox]

Congrats on the grade and thanks for sharing!

[obcbobd]

Originally Posted by jimivintage

Nice, Bob! It does look a lot nicer in the slab than the original pic you published.

Thanks Jimi. Got my scanner fixed


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