This grading gets a grade of F

[brianp-beme]

I have purchased from this seller in the past with no issues, but wow is his grading of cards extremely loose. Check out what qualifies for Vg+...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1934-WORLD-W...4AAOSwmLlX3zMc

As the saying goes, buy the card, not the grader.

Brian

[D. Bergin]

That's why scans are great, you don't have to take the word of the grader. Most of us still remember the Wild West of SCD back in the day, when you bought cards based on the arbitrary grade given by the seller, and nothing more.

I still remember when I was 14 or so, I ended up sending back a 58' Mantle listed in VG+ condition, that looked like it had born the brunt of a Black & Decker power sander to the front of the card.

I got my money back, but I was pretty gutted. I had spent months saving up the money for that and a 54T Ted Williams that I ended up keeping, but wasn't happy about that one either.

In my depression, I probably ended up blowing the money I got back on a bunch of new Rack-Packs at Kay-Bee Toy Store.

[Fred]

Didn't you guys read the listing, it indicates "Experienced Seller". If fleabay says the person is experienced, then who are we to judge?

[Leon]

I think it's only vg.

[brianp-beme]

I believe the '+' indicates no power tools were used in the destruction of the card.

Brian

[brianp-beme]

I bet the seller might be wondering why this card went from 9 views to 124 views in just a couple of hours. Must be that 1934 World Wide Gum HOF cards in Vg+ are hot now.

Brian

[GrayGhost]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

That's why scans are great, you don't have to take the word of the grader. Most of us still remember the Wild West of SCD back in the day, when you bought cards based on the arbitrary grade given by the seller, and nothing more.

I still remember when I was 14 or so, I ended up sending back a 58' Mantle listed in VG+ condition, that looked like it had born the brunt of a Black & Decker power sander to the front of the card.

I got my money back, but I was pretty gutted. I had spent months saving up the money for that and a 54T Ted Williams that I ended up keeping, but wasn't happy about that one either.

In my depression, I probably ended up blowing the money I got back on a bunch of new Rack-Packs at Kay-Bee Toy Store.

sadly, not on uncut super sheets or gorgeous football cello packs

and Lombardi may be a poor minus REPRINT too. ha

[ksabet]

Its also $10

[GrayGhost]

Originally Posted by ksabet

Its also $10

the issue is the condition description, not the price. lol

[Steve D]

I'd say the grade of VG is correct, as in Very Gnarled

Steve

[brianp-beme]

I preface my remarks in stating that I have made a vintage collecting career out of the $10.00 card. Fortunately my collecting spans back to 80's when $10 went a lot further.

A couple of things I have noticed since originally posting. First off, this is evidently not a $10.00 card, as no one has bitten the prior SIX times it was listed. Secondly the seller previously had another World Wide Goudey Lombardi (in my estimation fair condition would be a stretch, but still a somewhat decent looking card) listed as VG+. So it looks like he just reused the auction listing description and title and inserted new scans.

Brian (just to be fair and accurate)

[GasHouseGang]

I too remember the "wild west" days of SCD and depending on someone's description. I once bought a 1956 Topps set that way and had to return it to the seller. A Nm-Mt set was at best Vg-Vg+. I was sweating until I got that money back!

[Leon]

There was never any grading like Larry Frisch (RIP) grading. Oh the memories....

"But Larry, the corner is missing how is it EX?" Just sent it back and tell me why, for a refund, Larry would say. He never had an issue with refunds. I wonder if Battlefield....oh, never mind....

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by GrayGhost

sadly, not on uncut super sheets or gorgeous football cello packs

Yeah, those were the days Scott. Wish I had 1/2 the stuff now, that I did when I was a teenager digging up oddball stuff nobody really cared about then.

[david_l]

Huh. Let me know if anyone's interested in my gem mint DeLong Traynor.

[GasHouseGang]

Originally Posted by Leon

There was never any grading like Larry Frisch (RIP) grading. Oh the memories....

"But Larry, the corner is missing how is it EX?" Just sent it back and tell me why, for a refund, Larry would say. He never had an issue with refunds. I wonder if Battlefield....oh, never mind....

I remember when the TPG services started and so many of the long time dealers kept saying how we didn't need people grading cards, and it would never work. I kept thinking that it was quite a coincidence that many of the dealers that were doing the most whining were dealers I had bought over-graded cards from.

[nat]

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