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we know for sure that Mantle was bad? I never heard the outcome of that but i guess if its not relisted than that answers that......
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Yeah it was bad. Someone who had the real one apparently sounded the alarm.
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would of been real easy if they could of been contacted on a owner registry before an auction house got duped....was the mantle fake or just a lower grade..i wonder how much the owner of the fake psa 8 mantle paid for the card or when he bought it from craigslist.... PSA seems to always say the tampering of the holder looks obvious...but not obvious to me when i see pictures
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'61 Marichal....
He has a supposed PSA 10 Marichal Rookie and the bottom right hand corner is fuzzy!?!?!?!?!?!?
Wow!!!! Stay far away! Peace, Mike Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1961-TOPPS-J...4AAOSwqrtWmVXt s-l1600.jpg Last edited by vthobby; 02-27-2016 at 05:55 PM. |
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I was told the Mantle was real just altered. The holder was resealed and it is PSA's stance is that it was very obvious. I am not sure that part is 100% accurate though or simply PSA trying to cover up their that their new holder can be opened and resealed. That card is linked to the Mexico operation.
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http://investors.collectors.com/secf...32&CIK=1089143 "Supplies In order to obtain volume discounts through June 30, 2015, we have chosen to purchase substantially all of the injection-molded plastic parts for our clear plastic holders principally from two suppliers. We have chosen to order our most critical high-volume plastic part from both of these suppliers. We choose one or the other of these suppliers to manufacture other less critical parts. We typically concentrate the purchase of holders through one supplier when developing new holders. There are numerous suppliers for these parts, and we believe that, if necessary, we could obtain those parts from other suppliers without incurring significant costs. However, if it became necessary for us to obtain any parts from another supplier, we might have to arrange for the fabrication of a die for the new supplier. Fabrication of high-value precision dies can be a lengthy process. Although we do not have back-up dies for some of our high-value volume injection-molded parts, we own the dies used to manufacture the parts, and we believe the inventory of parts we maintain is sufficient to give us the time to have another supplier build the parts, should the need to do so arise or should we decide to use another supplier for certain parts." |
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ship them to mexico. grab a sonic welder, start buying up cards & voilà! $150k in a month! |
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and i think the marichal is real. it has his carpet background, so that just may be psa! ; )
here is a list of items sold w/ highest prices first. remember, this guy didn't have them "in hand".... you will see that the first couple all have the "black background" vs his carpet background my mantle is removed from the list, i know there was an 86 rice 10 and jeter sp 10 that seem to have disappeared from the sold list but these are some biggies and there are probably a few more that were done direct.... http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?item=...gistry&_sop=16 Last edited by begsu1013; 02-27-2016 at 06:45 PM. |
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Thanks for letting us know about this this Bob. Man, these fake holders send a chill down my spine. I only know Bob from his postings here and on the CU boards, but I'm confident that he's seen enough PSA holders that if this one could have passed the eye test to him initially, these con artists are mighty sophisticated.
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More importantly, consigners will soon have some liability for fraudulent auctions, and it's long overdue. Can't play the dumb-card much longer. Otherwise, why not open an auction house, sell all of your fraudulent cards, and then say say they were someone else's cards. Oh wait, that's already been done. |
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