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Old 05-21-2014, 05:50 PM
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I think SGC is responsive to what's often posted here--and perhaps it's too late in this case--but near-universal disdain for the new flips might have some effect. So keep it up. I agree that some will say the hell with them now that the look won't even come close to matching the old...
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Old 05-21-2014, 05:53 PM
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Love SGC, hate the news flips. This may cost them my business
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Old 05-21-2014, 05:55 PM
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Love SGC, hate the news flips. This may cost them my business
Dan I wonder if they changed the back of the holder to add some type of hologram or something different to stop fakes? The new website design is great but the holder not so much. I have a submission on its way back now.......hoping they used the older flip.
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Dan I wonder if they changed the back of the holder to add some type of hologram or something different to stop fakes? The new website design is great but the holder not so much. I have a submission on its way back now.......hoping they used the older flip.
Whether they have a hologram or not the design is just aesthetically unappealing and, like others have mentioned, it disrupts any uniformity with former SGC slabs. Sometimes change is good, but unfortunately not in this case.
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IMHO, the old flips have a much classier look than the new flips. It always amazes me how a seemingly-unnecessary business decision can have a real negative effect on a company's business.
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There will be an archived submission status very, very soon(if not already there). It is the last thing to be populated to the new site. There are watermarks on the new flips that can't be seen from scans. They are much more difficult to counterfeit or reproduce and are much safer. This info from Sean Skeffington their VP of operations.

I haven't given much thought to the flips yet but off hand they don't look that bad. They won't be like all of my others but I am not sure I care. I know I am in the minority so far and everyone is entitled to my opinion .

I should add that although the new flips don't look bad, the old ones are much more attractive.
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Leon thanks for the information.........do you know if the watermarks are visible?
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Leon thanks for the information.........do you know if the watermarks are visible?
I was out when Sean left the voice mail but my understanding is yes they are visible in person but not from a scan. Don't hold my feet to the fire but I am pretty sure he said they are visible in person.
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I was out when Sean left the voice mail but my understanding is yes they are visible in person but not from a scan. Don't hold my feet to the fire but I am pretty sure he said they are visible in person.
Roger that brother.........thanks Leon! I always enjoy talking with Sean and Earl. I still believe they have the best customer service out there!
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I think SGC is responsive to what's often posted here--and perhaps it's too late in this case--but near-universal disdain for the new flips might have some effect. So keep it up. I agree that some will say the hell with them now that the look won't even come close to matching the old...

Greg I hope you are right. I liked the old flip quite a bit. Kinda had a museum quality to it in my opinion. May give ole Earl a call tomorrow and see if the new design is the final verdict.
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Same as others, I like SGC, but I'm not a fan of the new flips at all. The green border was sharp and elegant with the black background. And anyone working on a set will not like having mixed flips from now on...

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Just sent an email to Earl and Sean (ejohnson@sgccard.com and sskeffington@sgccard.com to see if they could read our posts and concerns.
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Greg I hope you are right. I liked the old flip quite a bit. Kinda had a museum quality to it in my opinion.
Totally agree with this
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Amateurish flips - should never have considered making this change at all.

The Simpleauctionsite.com setup pop report is incomprehensible.

Very poor management decisions.
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Those flips are horribly designed. They look terrible. When people get stuff graded/auth. for their collection or resale...they want it to be professional looking as well. These design comes off very amateur and not professional.
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I was just starting to warm up to graded cards, and chose SGC as my flip and company of choice based on the look and security of the holder. I have even started a few player ad set registrations for the fun of it. The whole point of graded cards for me is the uniformity of the flips...I love it, and love SGC. The new ones look cheap and older...like the new style predated the old.

If they keep these, I am out. Again, I want uniformity. I agree with the person who said at least when PSA changes they still look uniform. These are awful, no way will I buy one. Maybe they can offer the old style for those who prefer it? If not...back to raw for me. Gotta have uniformity.
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