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Old 02-26-2023, 08:28 PM
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Don't you find it strange that a company that is well paid to determine if a card was altered can't do it but someone who is not paid and doesn't even have the card in hand can detect the alteration?

I can only come up with three possible reasons why that would be the case (as it has been many times):
  • Incompetence
  • Laziness
  • Corruption

Am I missing something?
You're missing "time!" It takes a lot of time to prove these trimmings...much more time than any tpg'er spends on any card.
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Old 02-26-2023, 09:02 PM
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You're missing "time!" It takes a lot of time to prove these trimmings...much more time than any tpg'er spends on any card.
According to SGC's pricing schedule, this card would cost about $4k to grade. How much time should that buy?
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Old 02-26-2023, 09:22 PM
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According to SGC's pricing schedule, this card would cost about $4k to grade. How much time should that buy?
from what i understand no more time than an 85 don mattingly.
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Old 03-01-2023, 12:32 PM
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According to SGC's pricing schedule, this card would cost about $4k to grade. How much time should that buy?
exactly, The TPG's want to charge an arm and a leg, but they don't WANT to investigate for even 4 hours. I'd like to make 4K in 10 minutes...If fact, sometimes I do,
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Just curious. How much does PSA or SGC charge to grade a card with a perceived values of $100, $1K, $10K and $100K?

I think everyone knows where I'm going with this. If the TPGs charge based on the card value ($$), then they're better off assigning higher grades.

What if someone submits a card and indicates the value to be $10K but in reality, if the card is graded with a high grade and it's worth $50K. How does the TPG let the submitter know the valuation assigned by the submitter is too low?

Or on the flip side, what if the submitter assigns a value of $50K to a card (they assume a high grade) and the grade is more indicative of a $10K card, then how does the TPG provide a refund in the submitter's fee that was paid for a higher valuation of the card?

This is all pretzel logic to me.
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Old 03-01-2023, 04:49 PM
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Just curious. How much does PSA or SGC charge to grade a card with a perceived values of $100, $1K, $10K and $100K?

I think everyone knows where I'm going with this. If the TPGs charge based on the card value ($$), then they're better off assigning higher grades.

What if someone submits a card and indicates the value to be $10K but in reality, if the card is graded with a high grade and it's worth $50K. How does the TPG let the submitter know the valuation assigned by the submitter is too low?

Or on the flip side, what if the submitter assigns a value of $50K to a card (they assume a high grade) and the grade is more indicative of a $10K card, then how does the TPG provide a refund in the submitter's fee that was paid for a higher valuation of the card?

This is all pretzel logic to me.
For PSA, how it works is that there are maximum value amounts for each service level. You can submit something that is below that maximum value amount, but not above.

If your item turns out to be worth more than the maximum, then they upcharge you for the higher level of service that aligns with your actual value. You'll get an email, and they'll make you pay before they release your items. My experience is that they only do this in cases where the item clearly exceeds the value maximum.

If your item turns out to be worth less than you expected, then you just have the pleasure of having guessed high, and you pay for a higher service level than you really needed.
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I believe PSA has graded the SGC 8.5 recently as a recent Instagram post they had has a card graded a 7 with the same exact stain or spot on the left bottom side of the card. Certification number for the newly graded card is 70609922
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I believe PSA has graded the SGC 8.5 recently as a recent Instagram post they had has a card graded a 7 with the same exact stain or spot on the left bottom side of the card. Certification number for the newly graded card is 70609922
So much for the trimming.
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