Can anybody get scrapbook off the back of a Mayo?

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Posted By: Julie Vognar

Beautiful card, lots of scrapbook on back. Would like to hear both positive and negative experiences, if any. Thank you. Julie:)

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Posted By: Anthony

There was an article in this weeks SCD (at least I got it this week, I usually get them 3-4 weeks late) about a company that restores and cleans up cards, removing wrinkles, residue, etc. Guess they do a lot of work for major dealers (according to the article) who buy low, restore, grade and sell high. I think the company was called "When it was a Stain" and is based in NY. I"d be interested to know what everyone's opinion was about this practice.

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Posted By: runscott

I can't help with Mayos, but anyone who wants help with "Talk of the Diamond" (or similar issues)can send me an email for a guaranteed method (warm water and qtips)

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Posted By: David

There's an expert on this who wrote a little blurb for the newsletter a few monthes back. I will pass on his address if I can find it.

I've lightly 'boiled' some cards before with some success. Most were cheap and trimmed non-sport trade cards, so it would be no great loss if I ended up with trade card soup (ketchup covers up the taste of anything). The technique worked well for me, though it lightly warped some cards. This was probably due to both my ineptitude and that most trade cards are on thin cardboard.

I also tried it on three baseball trade card proofs, which otherwise graded about very good. It removed the heavy paper fine, but again caused some warping. I don't know the thickness of the Mayos, but if they're thicker this may not be a problem.

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Posted By: Tom

I've soaked about 500 cards out of a 1880's album before. Old Judges (unfortunately skinned), Goodwin Champs (N162's), Buchner Gold Coins and tons of non-sports. Anyway......I put a full album page in a bath of distilled water till the cards came off the page. The glue was old and the paper brittle but they came off pretty nicely. The water would get dirty and cloudy. You have to kind of rub the backs of the cards to get any still attached residue off them. Qtips work okay and fingers work pretty good too. After the cards were off, I soaked them again in a cleaner distilled bath. Then put them between white typing paper to get the water off. Change the white typing paper every 10-15 minutes until they are completely dry. I've also used two boards with the card in between and clamps on them to get them to be straightened out. Works pretty well. Was able to get 4 of the N162's that I soaked out graded by SGC at SGC70's and SGC60's.

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Posted By: runscott

I definitely wouldn't soak cards with photo fronts, like Old Judges or Mayos (aren't they similar in build?)

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...we're preparing to experiment with some cards glued to a scrapbook album page and any advice would be appreciated. Thanks!

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Posted By: David

For peace of mind-- lithographic ink itself (ala T206, Goudey, Topps) does not disolve in water. As part of my work, I test printing inks, and it takes specific (and smelly) chemicals to disolve particular printing inks from paper.

While others may be more adventerous than I, as they begin to bring that pot to boil on the kitchen stove and wearing the apron that says 'King of the Roast', I reiterate that I have only tried to remove paper with water from inexpensive cards in rough condition where the paper on the back was a significant problem. I also ruined a 1920 photograph duing this.

With all the lawyers watching, I figured a disclaimer was due. And as Hal is a personal injury lawer, I point out that you should not remove the cards from the vat of boiling water with your teeth or, when finished, eat the leftever album paper. And all my money's in my wife's name.

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Posted By: Julie Vognar

See, I don't know what that black stuff IS. It doesn't look integrated with the card, like, for instance, a N162. I just got the "When it was a stain" issue of SCD, too, so I may get in touch with them

It's a Billy Hamilton, and the front is gorgeous.