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Old 10-10-2018, 01:35 AM
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Default New info regarding the Hindu and Old Mill Southern Leaguers

It has long been thought that the southern league players were printed
with Hindu backs during the 150 series and that they were printed with Old Mill
backs in the early printing of the 350 series but that might not be the case.

The first known Hindu ad that showed pictures of but didn't mention southern
leaguers ran on August 13 1909.
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The first known ad that mentioned the southern leaguers ran on August 23 1909.
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I recently discovered this Old Mill ad that ran for a week in a Tampa
newspaper beginning on August 14 1909.
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It seems that Eli Witt was quite an entrepreneur who had ties
with R.J. Reynolds.
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Default Pat - Your research is INCREDIBLE!!

Keep up the AMAZING work!
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Pat--Terrific research and thanks for sharing. I have a piece on Southern League players at Scot Reader's invaluable website, T206insider.com. If I revise my essay I will most certainly have to mention the OM/Hindu connections.

Here's a link to my essay:

http://www.t206insider.com/store/c1/insider#research/

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Awesome Pat, thanks for sharing.
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Looks like Eli Witt was quite the seller of tobacco products. This link was sent to me several years back from Chris Browne who found it for me, leading me to believe it was pretty easy for Howe to amass a large collection if that many folks were buying cigarettes from his family store and maybe just giving them to him or leaving them behind. But what are tobacco tags? Would these have had anything to do with either the Piedmont, Old Mill or Hindu brands? Or are these from loose leaf tobacco for those who rolled their own?

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Thanks Howard, Mike and Bryan.

Mike I read your essay when it when it was first posted on Scot's site
and I read it again today very informative and well done.
You may already know this but I learned that Sam Strang's father was
the 2nd president of the Southern Baseball Association.
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Looks like Eli Witt was quite the seller of tobacco products. This link was sent to me several years back from Chris Browne who found it for me, leading me to believe it was pretty easy for Howe to amass a large collection if that many folks were buying cigarettes from his family store and maybe just giving them to him or leaving them behind. But what are tobacco tags? Would these have had anything to do with either the Piedmont, Old Mill or Hindu brands? Or are these from loose leaf tobacco for those who rolled their own?

http://i.imgur.com/lEJX2AA.png
I'm not sure if they were part of the pack or in the pack but they were
like stamps that could be exchanged for merchandise.

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Good stuff thanks
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Default Hindu and Old Mill Southern Leaguers

Great information always Patrick! Thank you.
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A nice history of tobacco tags:

http://www.academia.edu/184266/Some_...he_Tobacco_Tag
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