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Old 10-09-2018, 12:05 AM
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Ted- Epic thread, great work.

It's kinda eye-popping how many deals I've done with people here...several trades illustrated in this thread alone- Drums, Bl 460's, Uzits, Lenox's, etc...if I would've kept all the cards I've owned...But alas, I really do enjoy trading. Keeps things fun.

Thanks Mike


And yes, you and I have done some nice T206 deals, dating back to the ole Fort Washington Philly Show days.

I will be setting up again at the Philly Show in Oaks, PA in December. Hope to see you there.


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Old 10-09-2018, 05:08 AM
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One of the many great cards in my hot little hands at one time but, sadly, no longer is a Drum backed T206 Griffith batting PSA 7, one of the prides of my collection at the time and consigned to Kevin Struss when he was at Mastro.

Ted, I guess it had to be a 350/460 series according to your chart.
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Old 10-09-2018, 07:25 PM
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Hi Sean

The timeline of the print runs of the 48 subjects in the Southern League (SL) series tells us the story.

Circa..Summer > Fall 1909, the 1st press run of the SLer's (34 subjects) were printed with HINDU backs.

Circa..late 1909 > early 1910, the OLD MILL press runs started and the following 14 subjects were added
to the SL series (total = 48 subjects)......

Hart (Little Rock)
Hart (Montgomery)
King (Danville)
Lentz (Little Rock)
Orth (Lynchburg)
Rockenfeld (Montgomery)
Seitz (Norfolk)
Westlake (Danville)

Texas League

Bastian (San Antonio)
Molly Miller (Dallas)
Carlos Smith (Shreveport)
Stark (San Antonio)
Thebo (Waco)
Foley White (Houston)

Circa..Spring 1910, the PIEDMONT 350 cards were printed on all 48 - SL. Surveys indicate that these 14
additional SL subjects were were printed with PIEDMONT 350 backs in greater quantity than those of the
original 34 subjects were.


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Ted,
I found an ad that I think might be important on the timeline of the
printing of southern league series with Old Mill backs.

The ad was in an August 14 1909 Tampa paper. With the cards
already packaged and in transit in mid August I would think the
printing would have had to have started in late spring or early summer.

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Old 10-11-2018, 09:31 PM
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One of the many great cards in my hot little hands at one time but, sadly, no longer is a Drum backed T206 Griffith batting PSA 7, one of the prides of my collection at the time and consigned to Kevin Struss when he was at Mastro.

Ted, I guess it had to be a 350/460 series according to your chart.

Hi John

Your guess is yes......Griffith (with bat) is a 350/460 series subject.

Take care, my friend.


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Old 10-11-2018, 09:34 PM
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Default T206 Reference..Reflections..."Bang the DRUM Slowly" while showing us your DRUM cards

Listed in Post #516 here are all the T206's which have been confirmed (to date) with the DRUM back.

The following lists all the possible T206's which have yet to be found with the DRUM back.




350-only series (76 subjects not yet confirmed)

Abbott
Anderson
Arndt
Beck
Beckley
Bender (trees)
Blackburne
Bliss
Brain
Brashear
Bresnahan (bat)
Burchell
Burns
Bush
Butler
Campbell
Carrigan
Cassidy
Chappelle
Chase (portrait-blue)

Chase (dark cap)
Clancy
Clymer
Collins (A's)
Cravath
Cree
Doolan (fielding)
Dubuc
Dunn (Baltimore)
Dunn (Brooklyn)
Dygert
Easterly
Ferguson
Flanagan
Fromme
Ganzel
Bill Graham (St Louis)
Grimshaw
Hall
Hannifan

Hoffman (Providence)
Hoffman (St Louis)
Howard (Chicago)
Huggins (portrait)
Hulswitt
Jones (Detroit)
Kruger
Lord
Malarkey
Marquard (portrait)
Mathewson (dark cap)
McCormick
Mc Elveen
McGinley
McGinnity
McGlynn
Matty McIntyre (Detroit)
Merritt
Miller (Pittsburg)
Milligan


Myers (bat)
Oberlin
O'Brien
O'Neill
Paskert
Phelan
Poland
Quillen
Sharpe
Shaw (Providence)
Stanage
J. Tannehill (Washington)
Jack White (Buffalo)
Wilson
Wright
Irv Young


350/460 series (1 subject not yet confirmed)

Mullin (batting)



If any of you have any of these guys listed above with a DRUM back, PLEASE show-n-tell us about it here.


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Old 10-12-2018, 09:49 PM
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Default T206 Reference..Reflections..."Bang the DRUM Slowly" while showing us your DRUM cards

Switching back to T205 DRUM's.....after completing my 209-card T205 set [included the Hoblitzell (no stats)],
I continued my T205 "adventure" by forming these A-B-C-D sub-sets. Here is an example of my favorite....


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I've been searching for the Huggins / DRUM for quite a number of years. Any help here is greatly appreciated.


T205 DRUM's or T206 DRUM's......if you have them, why not post them here.


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Old 10-18-2018, 09:22 PM
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Default T206 Reference....Guess how many Demmitt & O'Hara St Louis variations exist ?

* * * * * * * * * * T206 Reference, Reflections, Theory's, Surveys, etc. * * * * * * * * *





As we all know, the Demmitt and O'Hara St Louis variations were printed only with POLAR BEAR backs. This is because the POLAR BEAR timeline coincided with the trades of
these two guys from their former New York teams. Both of them started the 1910 season with their respective St Louis teams. By May 1910, both of them were re-assigned
to the Eastern (International) League. Demmitt to Montreal and O'Hara to his hometown team, Toronto.

American Lithographic printed 250 different subjects with the POLAR BEAR backs....which include subjects in the 350-only series, the 350/460 series and the 460-only series.

As rare as these 2 cards seem to be, you may be surprised to find out how many of them are in circulation. I have a fair estimate of how many Demmitt and O'Hara St Louis
variations are currently in circulation. But, before I give you my number, let us hear your guesstimate ?







Imperial Tobacco (C46)....Eastern (International) League cards (1912)



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Old 10-18-2018, 10:39 PM
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Who knows how many are still out there ? I'll guessimate around 850 each.
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Old 10-18-2018, 10:40 PM
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About 400 or so each
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Old 10-18-2018, 11:04 PM
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Guessing there are roughly 350 copies of each of each card. By the way, nice Demmitt!
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