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This piece, apparently, is worthy of being in the HOF...Because the acquisitions committee voted unanimously to take it in for their art collection.

My father, who passed away 2 years ago, was a very talented artist and designer. We took annual pilgrimages up to Cooperstown (fond memories). On one trip in 1994, he did this pen & ink sketch of the Hall. After he passed away, I had it framed and contacted the HOF to donate it. They loved it, and it's now part of their permanent collection.

Saying I'm honored, humbled and touched, to have a piece of my father's art in the Hall of Fame, would be an understatement. I plan to bring my son there in a few years to see it.
Any way we can get a larger scan of this beautiful piece sir, would really like to enjoy the details of your father`s work. Thank you.
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Thanks for the very kind words, guys.

Here's a close up of the HOF sketch...

He also did this other one on the same day. It's of the old, great shop (National Pastime) in Cooperstown. I framed this one too...but this one is being kept for my son.
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If these are HOF worthy but maybe;
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Great ball! Who was Spencer Wood?
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The first "little" World Series was played in 1904. The Buffalo Bisons of the Eastern (International) League beat the St Paul Saints of the American Association.
I acquired this very rare composite 27 years ago while set-up at the Cooperstown HOF weekend Baseball Card Show. A gentleman "walked-in" with it, he was
interested its trade value. I gave him a fair figure and he traded it to me for a bunch of T206's.
I have searched for another one since 1990, but to no avail.

Anyhow, I'm thinking of eventually donating it to the Hall of Fame. It's a significant piece of Baseball history since No Major League World Series was played in
1904.




The 1904 NL Champs were the NY Giants. McGraw was hoping to play the NY Highlanders in the World Series. However, the AL Championship came down to
a dramatic Playoff game in which Jack Chesbro (41-game winner) "blew" the game in the 9th inning and Boston went on to win the AL Pennant.

McGraw refused to play Boston, so there was no World Series. Furthermore, McGraw declared the Giants...."World Champions" !


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This is a very neat collectible, but probably not "HOF worthy" lol. This photo was taken moments before the first of several meetings to move the Dodgers from Brooklyn to Los Angeles. At first glance, the photo appears to be off center. Upon further review, the beloved Emmett Kelly aka Brooklyn Bum can be seen lying on the bleachers. Certainly this was done for effect, as this meeting was highly publicized and ultimately led to the cross country move. This would be the final year for Brooklyn in Vero Beach, aka "Dodgertown"

More can be read here on walteromalley dot com:

"Another important meeting took place with several representatives from Los Angeles, including its Mayor Norris Poulson and Hahn, at Dodgertown on March 6, 1957. Also in attendance were John Gibson, President of the City Council; Samuel Leask, City Administration Officer; John Leach, Los Angeles County Chief Administrative Officer; and Milton Arthur, Chairman of the County Recreation Commission. It was an opportunity for Los Angeles to put its best foot forward and explain its genuine hope of pursuing the Dodgers and bring Major League Baseball to the West Coast, while gauging O’Malley’s interest. During their visit and throughout that spring, Emmett Kelly, the world-famous clown, entertained everyone and his antics were well-received by the fans."**

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The photo is in VG-EX condition, more on the EX side, with a slight bend on the top right corner area. Mild staining on the back, with the United Press stamp clear and visible. The typed story portion intact and still attached to the photo at the bottom.

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Unbelievable stuff here. What a great thread. With all this amazing stuff, my contribution would probably go in the HOF basement or attic.
Maybe a World Series wing........

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This one might be interesting to either the Negro League museum or the Hall Of Fame...one of the highlights of my collection. Connie Morgan's personal scrapbook from her days in the Negro Leagues. Filled with newspaper clippings and handwritten notes and a few photos...all put into the scrapbook during her time with the Indianapolis Clowns.





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Unbelievable stuff here. What a great thread. With all this amazing stuff, my contribution would probably go in the HOF basement or attic.
Maybe a World Series wing........
Wow. What's pretty incredible about this (aside from the obvious baseball history), to me at least, is the attempt at a panoramic shot before panorama was truly possible.
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Ted that is amazing. And great story!
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JC -

Surely you have a better scan than that! Your scan is basement-worthy, but your cabinet would be front-and-center of the Hall in my mind!
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PM me your email address and a better scan you shall have. Just don't want to see a counterfeit pop up on the market like what happened when I showed a Cap Anson Cabinet longtime ago.
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Ted that is amazing. And great story!

Thanks Brendan.

Yes, 1904 was a really interesting season.....and, especially the way it ended.

There's an excellent book regarding the 1904 season......"The Year They Called Off the World Series", by Benton Stark.

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I hope none of these items gets donated to a museum !!!! They will either be stolen or put into a basement and never be seen again. At least put them up for auction so a collector can enjoy it when you don't want it anymore.
Must be stupid to donate it to a museum. These are great items. Thanks to all for sharing.
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FAcinating stuff gentlemen. Very nice.
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I hope none of these items gets donated to a museum !!!! They will either be stolen or put into a basement and never be seen again. At least put them up for auction so a collector can enjoy it when you don't want it anymore.
Must be stupid to donate it to a museum. These are great items. Thanks to all for sharing.
I tend to agree with you, although I believe that it's "stupid" to donate is a bit harsh.

It costs money to maintain museum pieces, and many times the funds aren't there for the museum to do this. Personally, I would keep all of the posted items, or donate with wording the items are secured and permanently on display and I set up funding to maintain the items myself. I would also reserve the right to have items return to my possession at any time.
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1947 Original Photograph of Jackie Robinson as a member of the Montreal Royals, the Brooklyn Dodgers Minor League club in his 1st appearance at Ebbets Field during an exhibition game. The Dodgers would pick up Jackie's contract and officially promote him to the big leagues at the end of the day.

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Great stuff guys! That Mathewson pic is insane. I love pre-war baseball photography.
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well, perhaps this pendant given to John McGraw by the Giants Boosters in October of 1904 commemorating his "Champions" declaration could go alongside that other photo?

also, Dummy Hoy wool from 1890's
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The pendant and the Hoy jersey! Wow is all I can say. That Hoy SHOULD be in the HOF. 2 great contributions, thanks!
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Parts of my item are already in the HOF. These are two 1908 "OUR HOME TEAM" Postcards published by H. E. Smith Publishing, St. Louis. and include one Chicago Cubs version and one Chicago White Sox version.

These were once owned by Alan Jackman, a very early autograph collector. As a boy, he and his brother David spent 9 years (1902-1912) assembling a scrapbook with photos of just about every player, manager and umpire in the majors. The boys cut photos out of Spaulding Guides, newspapers, and - you guessed it - these "Our Home Team" postcards. When it was finished in the fall of 1912, they began taking it to Pirate games in their hometown of Pittsburgh and also traveled by train to other parks in order to get as many of the photos autographed as possible. Their successes included Honus Wagner, Walter Johnson, Christy Mathewson and at least 34 other HOFers. Ty Cobb, according to legend, stopped a game and had all his teammates sign for the boys.

Alan became the custodian of the scrapbook and kept it in his possession until 1975. Towards the end of his life, Mr. Jackman donated the incredible scrapbook to the Hall of Fame in Cooperstown. It was "enthusiastically received by the director and librarian 'who could think of no compilation of autographs to match it'." I like the anecdote that only one player ever refused to sign for the young boy (identity unknown), and he was a non-hall of famer, so in Alan's words "he missed out on his chance to be in the Hall of Fame!"

I've contacted the HOF about the postcards and they've invited me to bring them to the Archives Library and match them to the scrapbook if and when I visit Cooperstown.



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I know that you could previously see the entire scrapbook online through the BBHOF digital archive, but can't seem to find it anymore.
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That's incredible. We may have a winner. I'm assuming Joe Jackson actually signed it? I can't tell from that pic, but it doesn't look like his wife Katherine signed it...
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July 16, 1914 RPPC of Babe Ruth on the mound at Fenway during his second ML game. This is the earliest known image of Ruth in the Majors. Here is an article about it in the June 2017 SABR Pictorial History Research Committee Newsletter if you want to know more: http://sabr.org/research/pictorial-h...ee-newsletters. And yes, the HOF made it clear they when they were assisting me with my research that they would love to have this in their collection if I am ever so inclined.

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also, Dummy Hoy wool from 1890's
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July 16, 1914 RPPC of Babe Ruth on the mound at Fenway during his second ML game. This is the earliest known image of Ruth in the Majors. Here is an article about it in the June 2017 SABR Pictorial History Research Committee Newsletter if you want to know more: http://sabr.org/research/pictorial-h...ee-newsletters. And yes, the HOF made it clear they when they were assisting me with my research that they would love to have this in their collection if I am ever so inclined.

Jim, can you even put a price tag on something like this? I'm assuming you bought it first and then learned that that was Ruth on the mound (later)?
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Brendan, yes I bought it as a circa 1914 Fenway RPPC and did my due diligence. As to value, I don't think anyone can really tell me. I wouldn't be shocked by almost any amount, low or high, there are simply no comps.
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July 16, 1914 RPPC of Babe Ruth on the mound at Fenway during his second ML game. This is the earliest known image of Ruth in the Majors. Here is an article about it in the June 2017 SABR Pictorial History Research Committee Newsletter if you want to know more: http://sabr.org/research/pictorial-h...ee-newsletters. And yes, the HOF made it clear they when they were assisting me with my research that they would love to have this in their collection if I am ever so inclined.

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Friendly bump. Anybody pick up anything this past weekend that "could be in the Hall of Fame"?
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Not from this weekend, but this might have a shot. A deadball (from 1914-1917, I believe) signed by a deadball HOFer...


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Came across this old thread and had a blast going through it. It's a couple of years ago so I imagine there are many other pieces that can be added, and many people who never saw it.

To keep the post on point, I'll include these 2. They are the first 2 Minor League contracts signed by Roy Campanella with the Dodgers. The first was to play in Danville, but that idea got nixed so he signed a new contract a few weeks later to play in Nashua (where he ultimately played).

Campanella was either the 3rd or 4th Black player to sign a contract.
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Great stuff in this thread.

Since this thread is old, I figured we maybe could add an add'l piece(?)

If so, here's my Derek Jeter 1996 Game Used & Signed Rookie Bat.
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"Hit into our Yard - October 23, 1927" Inscription

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Hit either in San Francisco or Oakland..... the story this ball could tell.
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^^^ Wow is that neat!!
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That's incredible. We may have a winner. I'm assuming Joe Jackson actually signed it? I can't tell from that pic, but it doesn't look like his wife Katherine signed it...
Updating this old thread. Went to the HOF and saw the Scrapbook-has some incredeble signatures including Jake Beckley, Hank O'day and Frank Chance...to name a few. However, there are several Jackson autographs in there that all appear to be secretarial. I have pictures....somewhere.
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If not the Hall of fame,,,maybe the Canadian Baseball Hall of Fame , Full tickets to the 1st ever official game played outside the United States.



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The HOF could always use more Negro League representation. This scorecard might fit in nicely with an exhibit sometime. I have only seen a handful offered for sale. This one features HOF legend Buck Leonard and a young, 20 year old named Campanella:









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Great stuff in this thread.

Since this thread is old, I figured we maybe could add an add'l piece(?)

If so, here's my Derek Jeter 1996 Game Used & Signed Rookie Bat.

Oh, I love that Jeter bat...

Here is my contribution: A Big Papi ALCS gamer dating from 2003 to 2008. Since it is specific to the ALCS, there is a reasonable chance that this one was in the bat rack during the legendary curse breaking 2004 moment.
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I always thought the grandfather of our hobby, Jefferson Burdick, and his letters, catalogs, etc... should be there. Here is one of around 20 or so...

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Default How about the document that traded Fergie Jenkins from the Cubs to the Phillies...

Fergie had a couple of stories to tell when he saw this. He was at a Single-A Lancaster Jethawks game when we sat in the press box discussed the trade. Fifty years after the fact he was still a bit disenchanted with the Cubs' reasoning for making the deal.

A longer description of the document and other Jenkins autographs can be found by clicking here.

The website is CooperstownExpert.com and has a page for every Hall of Famer and a couple hundred other people important to the game. Hope you enjoy it.
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Default Original telegram announcing Babe Ruth's demise...

With all the Babe Ruth meant to the game, it's hard to imagine how it must've felt for baseball fans to learn of his demise. Here's an original telegram to the editor of the Chicago Tribune announcing Babe's death.

This telegram dated August 16, 1948 states, “Baseball King George Herman Ruth passed away today after a lengthy illness. Death cause in next telegraph following A.P. press release.” Only 53 years old at the time of his death, Babe Ruth was one of the most recognizable men on the planet.

The telegram can be seen on CooperstownExpert.com. There's plenty of other Cooperstown-worthy pieces there. On Babe's page there are 5 letters surrounding the Called Shot of the 1932 World Series from men who were there and played in the game.
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Default Sliding Billy Hamilton's lifetime passes

The original Lifetime Passes are the only of the lifetime variety that were paper. Later incarnations of the passes were issued on solid gold, sterling silver, metal, and leather.

One of only three Major League players to average more than one run per game played, Billy Hamilton crossed the plate at least 100 times in eleven seasons. His 197 runs scored in 1894 remains the Major League record. A two-time batting champ, Hamilton hit a career high .403 in 1894.

Hamilton’s name can still be found among baseball’s all-time career leader board in stolen bases (3rd), on-base percentage (4th), and batting average (7th).

These passes can be seen on CooperstownExpert.com on Billy Hamilton's page.
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Default Important piece from streaks of Gehrig and Everett Scott

Cal Ripken holds the all-time record for consecutive games played with 2,632. Second on the list is Lou Gehrig with 2,130; third is Everett Scott with 1,307. Pee Wee Wanninger is tied to both men directly behind Ripken.

In the 1925 season a 32-year old Scott was slipping at shortstop and at the plate. When Yankee manager Miller Huggins saw fit to bench Scott and end the streak, he turned to the rookie Wanninger. On May 5th, 1925 Wanninger started in place of Scott to end what is still the third longest run in MLB history.

Four weeks later Huggins called on 22-year old Lou Gehrig to pinch hit for Wanninger in what would be the start of Gehrig’s own streak.

Here is Wanninger’s player’s contract for the 1925 season in which he helped stop and start two of baseball’s most prolific consecutive games streaks. The front page is also signed by Hall of Fame executive Ban Johnson.

This is one of my favorite pieces although it's not as flashy as a Ruth or Gehrig autograph, the link to the game's history makes it pretty neat. It can be seen on Pee Wee Wanninger's page on CooperstownExpert.com.
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Default Original document trading two Hall of Famers - Orlando Cepeda and Joe Torre

Ok...hope I'm not boring anyone.

This official document dated March 17, 1969 formalizes the trade of Orlando Cepeda for Joe Torre. In the St. Patrick’s Day swap, the Braves gained Cepeda who two years earlier was the National League’s Most Valuable Player. The Cardinals in return gained Torre who two years later would win an MVP of his own. The bottom of the document is signed by Hall of Fame candidate, GM Bing Devine.

This document and the other pieces in previous posts are all on CooperstownExpert.com. Have to tell you, sometimes I get fired up about collecting...and every so often I have a moment of clarity and think about getting rid of everything and paying off the bills.

Thanks for looking!
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Default Last one, I promise

Here are a couple of documents calling up players to make their big league debut. On the left is that of Jim Rice dated the day of his debut. The other one is for Dick Allen who had to wait eight more days past the day the document was executed. Both are featured on the website CooperstownExpert.com. If you click on the player names, it'll take you directly to their pages on the site.
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