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Old 03-13-2018, 06:47 AM
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The major issue that has happened MANY times on this board and others, is that by outing an auction, you've now jeopardized the completion of an agreed to sale. That's why I asked years ago on the board, and the consensus was that you should wait 7 days to ask about a sale. That gives the buyer enough time to pay and the seller to deliver.
Many times, unscrupulous people (and yes, this board has their fair share or lurkers) will contact the seller and get them to cancel the sale in favor of a higher priced off-eBay deal.
Hell, it just happened in February on the 1951 Bowman Mantle PSA 4.5.

And advertising your eBay page is a ton different than saying "Hey guys, there is this awesome T206 on eBay ending tomorrow!" in a post on the front page.

If there's fraud, I get it. But don't just post an item asking if it's fraudulent just because the price is too good.
I have read a lot of good responses and I really like what you laid out there John.
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Old 03-13-2018, 07:58 AM
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I personally don't like when someone outs an auction.

What bothers me the most is when a seller outs his own auction to beef up interest. If that's okay to do, then I will out all my auctions.
It's ok to do until you get caught (outing your own auction). Then you won't do it any longer on this board as you will be warned and then banned.

And to answer a question above, yes paid advertisers will be able to advertise on the front page but they are few and far between (besides auction date notes.)

And lastly, except for outing your own auction, there is no board rule against outing anything. It has been discussed many times before.
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...And advertising your eBay page is a ton different than saying "Hey guys, there is this awesome T206 on eBay ending tomorrow!" in a post on the front page.

If there's fraud, I get it. But don't just post an item asking if it's fraudulent just because the price is too good.
This seems to best sum it up, most eloquently.
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Old 03-13-2018, 11:26 AM
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I consider it a benefit of community when an expert in an issue raises concerns over an auction. I know many collectors who've been saved from making bad purchases by information provided on this forum and others by concerned collectors.

I think we also have to differentiate between eBay and auctions, and sales and auctions:

--I would never want to comment on an active sale from the BST here (except in cases of fraud) because it might mess up someone's deal. There is little that is more divisive in a collecting community than interfering with someone else's deal. Think of it like Guido the Killer Pimp in Risky Business: "In these trying economic times, never, ever f*** with another man's livelihood."

--I would prefer not to see comments on eBay offerings because so often things do fly under the radar there.

--For any regular auction house, I see no harm in mentioning a lot offered; we all get the same emails and catalogs and see the same stuff anyway.

Personally, I don't comment on pending auctions (except for fraud or marquee items that everyone is talking about); if there happens to be something I spot I'd rather not broadcast it or have it broadcast. One of my favorite items ever flew under the radar in a major auction and I show it off whenever I can:



But I have no criticism of whoever feels otherwise about commenting on a pending auction at an AH; it is just my preference.
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It's ok to do until you get caught (outing your own auction). Then you won't do it any longer on this board as you will be warned and then banned.
Just curious...What's the logic behind this policy?
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Just curious...What's the logic behind this policy?
We have areas to do those transactions. So after being warned, if someone does it again (and there were no pure mistakes involved), they are gone. Does that seem wrong to you?
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I consider it a benefit of community when an expert in an issue raises concerns over an auction. I know many collectors who've been saved from making bad purchases by information provided on this forum and others by concerned collectors.

I think we also have to differentiate between eBay and auctions, and sales and auctions:

--I would never want to comment on an active sale from the BST here (except in cases of fraud) because it might mess up someone's deal. There is little that is more divisive in a collecting community than interfering with someone else's deal. Think of it like Guido the Killer Pimp in Risky Business: "In these trying economic times, never, ever f*** with another man's livelihood."

--I would prefer not to see comments on eBay offerings because so often things do fly under the radar there.

--For any regular auction house, I see no harm in mentioning a lot offered; we all get the same emails and catalogs and see the same stuff anyway.

Personally, I don't comment on pending auctions (except for fraud or marquee items that everyone is talking about); if there happens to be something I spot I'd rather not broadcast it or have it broadcast. One of my favorite items ever flew under the radar in a major auction and I show it off whenever I can:



But I have no criticism of whoever feels otherwise about commenting on a pending auction at an AH; it is just my preference.
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We have areas to do those transactions. So after being warned, if someone does it again (and there were no pure mistakes involved), they are gone. Does that seem wrong to you?
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I agree with Leon, seems obvious actually. Imagine if everyone was allowed to promote their own auctions on the main page. There would be no room left for the discussion threads.
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We have areas to do those transactions. So after being warned, if someone does it again (and there were no pure mistakes involved), they are gone. Does that seem wrong to you?
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Oh...So you're saying it's only an issue if it's done outside of the BST section...ie on the home page? I thought you were saying it wasn't allowed anywhere.
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So you don't like when someone outs an auction, yet have a link on your posts to your eBay page. Mmmmm. Trying to process that.
When setting up your Net54 profile, there is a place to enter your home page url. So, every time you post something on the board, it will be displayed. Try to process that!
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