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Old 04-16-2018, 03:55 PM
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i believe you skipped chapter 1 in the "How to Commit Fraud for Dummies" handbook. it's titled, "When Committing Fraud, Don't Use Your Real Name." maybe you didn't...

i agree with the other posters who said the series of things you are ashamed about are over too long a time span, and happened too repeatedly, to feel truly contrite. you kinda conned some people out of a small amount of money, but the buyers of those cards might have been buying with the intent of conning someone else.

if you are sincere about your misgivings you have the choice whether to try and not repeat your actions in the future...same as all the rest of us who are human.
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Old 04-16-2018, 03:56 PM
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Man, I don't know if you can ever come back from this one. Printing off rare back T206 cards from your printer and selling them on ebay is worse than the T206 buyback scam exposed here a while back... at least the buyer that was getting scammed was getting a real card. Your printed T206 cards are ludicrous.
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Old 04-16-2018, 03:56 PM
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Net54 members and all,


Before I communicate the following words, I wanted to let you know that this is NJ Dunkin, posting regarding a mistake I made a few weeks’ past. I made some counterfeit T206 reproductions to sell on eBay, but instead of making clear that these were fakes, I made the area of authenticity very gray. I recognize this as immoral, deceptive, and misleading.

Here is a link to one of the four auctions in question:

Abbatchio Uzit

I seek forgiveness for three things:
1) My actions were wrong. I recognize this and apologize for it.
2) I was confronted about this on Facebook (Tobacco Row) and stretched the truth in order to paint myself in a better light. I seek forgiveness for deceiving Facebook and board members alike.
3) I should have posted this publicly as soon as it happened, yet I delayed in posting to try and preserve my self-image and reputation.

I realize that this whole situation and how I handled it was wrong, and that I have no excuse for my actions.

I have reserved post #2 for the full details of the story. I wrote this out about a week ago. The details of the story below are the truth, but you do not have to read them or even read further than this sentence. I know the last thing I deserve is your forgiveness, but I felt led to communicate this to you knowing that it was wrong to carry on without associating myself publicly with my actions.

Thank you to the board and Facebook members for the encouragement to take this step.

Noah "NJ" Dunkin
By clicking the link only I see the words reproduction. I would see that as a buyer, not knowing T206, as a flag to not bid/buy. That's what I look for. Unless you added the reproduction part of the description later/after the auction began then I don't see much to complain about. Again I have not read everything because I have had great dealings with NJ and saw the disclaimer of "reproduction".
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Old 04-16-2018, 04:03 PM
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found a few t cards, this one is a nice uzit. tough to find




placed next to an authentic waddell in 3rd image. you decide.





selling as reproduction per ebay.


This suggests he found the card not made it. And it suggests he is only selling it as a repro because ebay makes him but he isn't sure, "You decide."

BS.
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Old 04-16-2018, 04:07 PM
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... And it's 1... 2... 3 strikes you're out at the old, ball game!
Very well done. Or, to use the internet acronym, AMF.
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Old 04-16-2018, 04:07 PM
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Wow. Maybe now would be a good time to take a hiatus and try to reset your moral compass a bit.
I'd suggest a permanent hiatus from this boand. Scammers like you are not needed here. It's bad enough we have to deal with them in the hobby.
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Old 04-16-2018, 04:09 PM
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By clicking the link only I see the words reproduction. I would see that as a buyer, not knowing T206, as a flag to not bid/buy. That's what I look for. Unless you added the reproduction part of the description later/after the auction began then I don't see much to complain about. Again I have not read everything because I have had great dealings with NJ and saw the disclaimer of "reproduction".
Here is his admission from post #2 on this thread:

However, this time I made my listings very gray regarding authenticity and provenance of the cards.


That is pretty clear. He also said this:

-In contrast, the Abbatchio and Cobb each had bids, so I couldn’t cancel. Instead of facing up to the buyer and being straightforward, I tried to bid and win my own cards with my purchasing account (username: njdunkin_1). I did not and would not shill my own auctions to earn a higher bid.

He says he wouldn’t shill, but I believe his actions are shilling.


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Old 04-16-2018, 04:20 PM
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I'd suggest a permanent hiatus from this boand. Scammers like you are not needed here. It's bad enough we have to deal with them in the hobby.
+1

I hear you wanting to come clean, but that was after you were caught right?

Sorry NJ but I agree with Jesse. Were all human but zero tolerance for this stuff. Like another board member said, this is about having fun. And this hurts our hobby.
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Old 04-16-2018, 04:27 PM
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Im a forgiving type but this type of bull$hit is happening way to often on ebay/othe sights and this board is a kind of shelter from that type of non sense. I trust the members on this forum to be straight up and honest the first time not when they are busted for doing the wrong things and then apologizing once they are caught.
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I love that movie. Never found a big audience back then and sadly overlooked these days. Nice reference.

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