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Old 04-10-2018, 01:56 PM
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The whole reason I love collecting is the beautiful backgrounds on a lot of these cards. These sets are some of the most artistic in the hobby. Just my two cents.
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Old 04-10-2018, 06:45 PM
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I love T206s. I love the "monstrosity" of the set, I love the players and the poses, and most of all, I love the various back advertisements. But, as much as I love T206s, and can include by extension T213, T214, and T215s, I collect other prewar cards; actually, I collect certain prewar players, and thus, collect other, non-T206 prewar cards. Lately, I have jumped headfirst into Mr. Honus Wagner Cards, which has me buying things like post cards, confectionary cards and E cards (because obviously there are few T cards of Wags). Which brings me to the point of this thread.

Below I list a number of questions. While I would appreciate feedback on each, please feel free to respond to one or two inquiries only.

1. How desirable are E cards today compared to (a) T206, (b) other T cards, and (c) compared to their desirability a decade ago?

2. It appears that the value of E cards are down substantially since 2006-2008. Is this accurate, and if so (a) why?, and (b) do you feel they have bottomed out (and will rise) or is their fall in value to continue?

3. Do you care about the various back variations on the cards, or is it all about the front pose; take for example E90, E92, E101, E102, E105 (maybe E106), etc., which all have the same fronts but many different backs, and would you pay up for a scarce front/back combo (like a Wagner blue crofts candy or a crofts cocoa)?

4. Would you agree that the E92/E101 (those listed above) front poses are more desirable than other candy/caramel issues, like E91 E93, E94, E95, E98, etc?

5. Related to question 4 -- what is the "T206" of E cards?

Thanks and cant wait to read the responses
Oddly enough, I have more E cards and T206 cards in my smallish collection. In fact, the only T-cards I have in my current collection is a Cy Young glove showing and a Ty Cobb green portrait.

1) have three guesses why T206 are more popular. a) along with 33 Goudey they are the go to type for prewar, b) the "monster" makes a hobby on its own to collect for set/back collectors and c) there is a large enough population size of high grade for those who collect and enough demand to keep them scarce. The high grade cards sets new highs at the auction and lifts all boats. Also add the stories of Wagner and you got, the monster. The E cards, before the black swamp find was mainly in lower condition, and rightfully so as they were catered to kids to play with. The problem with the E98's is that ther eis such a bifurcation of grade conditions; either lousy or nrmt-mt. And 700+ copies of it was just found so we are still digesting through them...

2) Actually it was the decline in value that attracted me to E-cards. Sort of gave me a (hopefully not false) sense of "margin of safety" in what I was buying. That said, I went through two card cycles since the late 80's, so I don't mind holding onto what I have and losing money. I didnt buy them as investments. But at the same time, I dont expect to lose money on these because there is a proxy of value from its more expensive tobacco brothers...

3) I think the board answered with the back variations. Problem is they are scarce already so its really tough to gain traction of a following. Will likely rise in value, who knows, but definitely more volatile in price. To answer your question, I will pay more for a more difficult back. The million dollar question is how much more, and given the scarcity already, I would rather look for condition and visual appeal than a scarce back.

4) I prefer the cracker jacks as the most iconic E cards and has most appreciation potential beyond the fact they are already among the most expensive E cards.

5) And I think the board answered the T206, which is the E90-1.

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Old 04-10-2018, 09:23 PM
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I love finding E cards I can buy for half the price they had previously sold for. Happy to buy them and add to my collection. Lots of great E card designs, especially E94, E98 and E103. Over many years, the prices seem to gradually increase on pretty much any pre-war cards in decent condition. As others have said, it is only a matter of time before big-time collectors start new Registry Sets on the E cards. The competition will drive prices back up.
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I love finding E cards I can buy for half the price they had previously sold for. Happy to buy them and add to my collection. Lots of great E card designs, especially E94, E98 and E103. Over many years, the prices seem to gradually increase on pretty much any pre-war cards in decent condition. As others have said, it is only a matter of time before big-time collectors start new Registry Sets on the E cards. The competition will drive prices back up.
+1. Most mid-tier E's are great buys relative to 10-15 yrs ago. I too think they have some room to move up.

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I've just started picking up some 1909-1911 cards due to an all time sports team project I've been working on.
I don't have a Cobb or Wagner yet so I've been thinking about making sure to get them in the same set so that on the chance I wanted to try a complete set I would be well on my way.
As a result, I think I am going to go with e95. I wish there was a 25-35 card set in color that had Cobb/Wagner/WJ/Matty. E91A/B/C has the players, but the set is quite large given my interest. M116s have the players, but too many. And as a whole I like e95 pictures over e93. Still checking out all the other various sets.
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I've just started picking up some 1909-1911 cards due to an all time sports team project I've been working on.
I don't have a Cobb or Wagner yet so I've been thinking about making sure to get them in the same set so that on the chance I wanted to try a complete set I would be well on my way.
As a result, I think I am going to go with e95. I wish there was a 25-35 card set in color that had Cobb/Wagner/WJ/Matty. E91A/B/C has the players, but the set is quite large given my interest. M116s have the players, but too many. And as a whole I like e95 pictures over e93. Still checking out all the other various sets.
They will be much better buys than they were 10'ish -15 yrs ago..Though the high end HOF'ers have stayed closer to what they were.
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I too have pondered the will e-cards come roaring back question. Everything is cyclical and I believe they will eventually. Maybe not roar back, but I do think the T206 back interest will spill over the the scarcer E backs and prices will rise.

I also believe that Cobb and Wagner will always be good investments. Moreso with Wagner and his E cards due to the fact that that's really all a collector has to go after with Wagner.

I would definitely pay a premium on a scarce back for Cobb or Wagner. Even if the demand is not what it once was, they don't grow on trees. Cobb and Wagner will ALWAYS be in demand.

good luck Ryan. There are some great scarce Cobb and Wager e issues out there.
Not too long ago, a E102 Cobby PSA 5 went at auction (Heritage, I think) for close to $30k. A lot of collectors still feel this is Ty's RC despite REA's opinion otherwise.
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