How many more times? 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle PRO 9.5

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Posted By: Julian Fernandez

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2702811643&category=16271

I don't know about you guys, but is this "Dr. Koo's," aka Richard, trying to pawn off his stupid and greedy purchase of a restored 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle? Does he now have "Justin" employed to get rid of his muscleheaded, testosterone purchase of a couple years ago? PRO, when is someone going to expose the fact that the last thing they are caplable of doing, is grading cards?

Imagine how this sounds, buy this card for $29,999.00, in a PRO holder, and then get it graded by PSA or whomever, and get $100,000.00 for it? Does he, Justin, feel that he can "dupe" people in believing this farse, just like that idiot who calls himself a "Doctor?" I love these "Private Auctions," when it comes to "PRO" graded material. Very sad.

Julian
Blue Bell, Pa

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Posted By: Charlie

I believe that is not the same PRO grading co. that Koos' card was from

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Posted By: Albie O'Hanian

This auction is for a PCG Mantle rookie card and the other auction was for a PRO Mantle rookie card. The acronyms are different but the end result for the buyer is the same.

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Posted By: Brian C Daniels

I wrote the seller and ask him if I paid for a PSA/SGC grader to come to his house to inpect it ,would that be reasonable for sale contingency? The answer was A DIALTONE*


If only PSA was next door the the 7/11 around the corner from my house.If only!

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Posted By: Julian

I guess the reason for my post is the fact that it went the distance, and that someone actually bid the card over $18,000.00. I know that on this board, not a lot of the members would let a "steal" like this go by. I mean really, I even emailed Richard(Dr? Koo's) when he last had his/Justin's 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle up for auction. I went to this board, and to my surprise, already about 10 posts on the card itself, the origin, the sellers deception, and the real truth when previous posts by the seller hung him with his own facts.

"You are bidding on the MOST POPULAR Sportscard on the market today! The 1952 Topps #311 Mickey Mantle Rookie PCG 9.5 MINT+! It has been graded by the Northwests leading Sportscard Authenticator's --PRO Choice Grading--- PCG Guarantee's everycard they grade to be 100% Authentic and Un-Altered in anyway! There are less than a handful of 1952 Topps Mantle's out there that are in this kind of condition! A card like this only comes along once every couple of years! Feel free to verify the card at www.prochoicegrading.com. The serial# is 2558560."

Members, what is the difference between "PRO" and "PRO Choice Grading?" They seem to mount their cards on that always tough "AAA" grading company, facsimilie holder.

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Posted By: Anonymous

edited as the post was anonymous

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Posted By: Hankron

I have no knowledge about Pro Choice's acumen, but the final bid on a auction like this should not be taken seriously.

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Posted By: Charlie

Good thing WIWAG is not around...We may have seen this card in a PSA 9 holder...

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Posted By: JC

Don't you think, that if a buyer recieved the card, not knowing that any alteration was done to it, he would be happy? I think he would. There are many collectors that have money and not that much card knowledge. I think it is wrong to knowingly sell it, if you know it's been altered without disclosing it. I'm still wondering about my 500 Home Run "Ron Lewis" painting I have down stairs if the Auto's are real or not. Some things I just don't want to know. I do know I have a Cert from the Dimaggio Co. that it is good! It sure is pretty to look at, real or un-real.

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Posted By: B C Daniels

was the Blue Eyed Wagner???

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Posted By: Dan Mathewson

...this must be Koos' auction and his card. The auction description is the same fly-by-night "square deal" and "I have zero-negative-feedback" and it's exactly the same verbiage he uses to justify his private auction (hiding the names of the bidders).

We know he hides their names becuase he doesn't want people to know his stuff is altered, like the Mantle. This way, the bidders can't be warned. But, this is exactly the garbage rhetoric he uses on the comic-keys auctions.

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Posted By: Dan

Koos knows it's altered. He admitted here on the Board many times, and whined and whined about how much money he lost on it. Now he has it in another holder...and lo and behold, it a fly-by-night company.

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Posted By: Julian

"JC,"

JC,

I understand what you are saying about purchasing something, and then hoping beyond hope that it's authentic. It brings out the speculator, or greed, in all of us. How many of us on the board have bought ungraded material, and it turns out to be authentic, and then you get it "slabbed," so there is worth attached to it? That's the whole idea, it's worth something!

Let's get back to Dick, or Richard. Perfect example of a greedy person, getting nothing back in return for his purchase, and has been trying to recope his 20K ever since. "JC" don't you see the living example in front of you? Imagine you spent 20K on a "altered, touched up, reconditioned," work of art like a '52 Topps Mickey Mantle. How about you getting "duped" for 20K, and then years go by, and maybe some financial crisis hits, you go to sell the card, and people, informed collectors like ourselves, put a precondition on the sale, "let a "real," "reputable," Grading Company slab this card, and then you find out it's only worth about the price of a plastic sleeve? Bad investment don't you think? You don't happen to have a money tree in front of your home, and then you realize, "I've been screwed"! You can't schedule a fake, or altered card on your insurance policy, can you? You know why? There is no worth to an altered card, it can't be even be used as collateral.

If you don't get "it," then you must enjoy throwing money away, just like that "Dick" who currently owns a worthless piece of paper that "resembles" a 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle, in PRO 9.5, of course.

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Posted By: Brian H

"I used to be disgusted but now I try to be amused."
-- Elvis Costello

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Posted By: JC

Point taken. I don't know if I should box up all my stuff and forget about it, or send it off to one of the "BIG 3" grading companies to confirm it. I think "Dick" should give his piece of art to his favorite charity, where they can enjoy looking at it or sell it for what it is.