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Old 09-13-2013, 06:45 PM
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HAHAHA - I was thinking the same thing!

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HAHAHA - I was thinking the same thing!

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You guys are correct, there is no room for trash talking unless it relates to autographs and forgeries which in this case it does. It also thought it would be important that it is known who is behind and in control of some of the autograph websites in the hobby.
Both Steve Koschal and Todd Mueller were behind the site Autographalert. After a lawsuit this site with all its false actuations and personal attacks was closed down and removed. The new pro forger and anti autograph authentication site is now called Autographnewslive. Todd Mueller is the owner of Todd Mueller autographs and auctions, one of the top sellers of autographs in the country. One only has to Google his name or look at his weekly inventory and many questions may come to mind. This two are now the experts on a new site that I believe many here are aware of named Autographplanet.
There is a lot of problems in this industry, the forgeries and negativity is destroying the hobby. More and more people are running from the hobby and everyday I hear of someone saying I am done collecting autographs. I thought it would be time to try and restore the autograph collecting hobby and make it not only safe but fun again.
I have been in this business for 35 + years and I have a lot of inside knowledge of what is going on and who the players are in this industry as well as the autograph underground. I am sorry and I understand that this looks to be a personal vendetta ,but many industry insider know it goes much further then that.
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You guys are correct, there is no room for trash talking unless it relates to autographs and forgeries which in this case it does. It also thought it would be important that it is known who is behind and in control of some of the autograph websites in the hobby.
Both Steve Koschal and Todd Mueller were behind the site Autographalert. After a lawsuit this site with all its false actuations and personal attacks was closed down and removed. The new pro forger and anti autograph authentication site is now called Autographnewslive. Todd Mueller is the owner of Todd Mueller autographs and auctions, one of the top sellers of autographs in the country. One only has to Google his name or look at his weekly inventory and many questions may come to mind. This two are now the experts on a new site that I believe many here are aware of named Autographplanet.
There is a lot of problems in this industry, the forgeries and negativity is destroying the hobby. More and more people are running from the hobby and everyday I hear of someone saying I am done collecting autographs. I thought it would be time to try and restore the autograph collecting hobby and make it not only safe but fun again.
I have been in this business for 35 + years and I have a lot of inside knowledge of what is going on and who the players are in this industry as well as the autograph underground. I am sorry and I understand that this looks to be a personal vendetta ,but many industry insider know it goes much further then that.
Hi Michael,
While I am not in the autograph business or hobby I understand your reasoning, It is somewhat like mine is on the card side. I want to let everyone know of issues in the hobby and will post about them. But more importantly I try to start threads that are positive, upbeat and promote positive things about the hobby. Maybe you could also post some threads about some of your positive experiences, or anything positive, about your hobby? That way you will truly be promoting for the enjoyment of collectors (not that these type threads aren't, but you know what I mean.) I am sure many of our members would like to hear some of the stories you have amassed in the 35 yrs you have been doing it. take care and carry on.....
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You guys are correct, there is no room for trash talking unless it relates to autographs and forgeries which in this case it does. It also thought it would be important that it is known who is behind and in control of some of the autograph websites in the hobby.
Both Steve Koschal and Todd Mueller were behind the site Autographalert. After a lawsuit this site with all its false actuations and personal attacks was closed down and removed. The new pro forger and anti autograph authentication site is now called Autographnewslive. Todd Mueller is the owner of Todd Mueller autographs and auctions, one of the top sellers of autographs in the country. One only has to Google his name or look at his weekly inventory and many questions may come to mind. This two are now the experts on a new site that I believe many here are aware of named Autographplanet.
There is a lot of problems in this industry, the forgeries and negativity is destroying the hobby. More and more people are running from the hobby and everyday I hear of someone saying I am done collecting autographs. I thought it would be time to try and restore the autograph collecting hobby and make it not only safe but fun again.
I have been in this business for 35 + years and I have a lot of inside knowledge of what is going on and who the players are in this industry as well as the autograph underground. I am sorry and I understand that this looks to be a personal vendetta ,but many industry insider know it goes much further then that.
yes it does and I applaud you posting the truth of these matters here, one of the only legitimate autograph sites on the net. The pirates must be held accountable. You're right about one thing... collectors do leave because of this in breed fighting and jockeying for position. Between the aggravating jerk offs at AP and AML and E-bay not taking down obvious forgeries, please tell me why anyone with a sliver of a brain would continue to collect anything in this hobby? I wish you all the best Mike in your fight against these butt wads.

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I thank you for the support, but it seems as the majority has been turned off or not interested in the infighting or as you have stated 'Jockeying for Position". I understand the feelings but before we can go to the positive part of the autograph collecting hobby, I felt an importance to go back and reveal the past and the major players that have been controlling the websites and trying to control the autograph industry.
These 2 frauds and cowards have been destroying the reputation of many creditable and important members of the autograph and autograph authentication industry. In the past many have not had the strength, inside knowledge, and power to expose the truth about the ongoing corruption, lies and misleading broadcastings to autograph collectors worldwide. This is especially important for new collectors who have no idea what to believe. I have a lot to share, a lot to expose and a lot to prove with facts, but it seems as if this will have to wait until a day in court.
I know sometimes this takes years and over those years we will be losing 1000;s of more collectors from the autograph hobby. There are people that are being burnt by the fraud and dark part of the industry daily.
Making matters even worse, a new website named Autographplanet as been started that I believed was going to be creditable and would share knowledge to the autograph collectors. It has been brought to my attention that both Stephen Koschal and Todd Mueller are on their list of trusted experts. Todd Mueller is also the key advertiser and banner promoted by this new site.
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HAHAHA - I was thinking the same thing!

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That is one of the funniest posts EVER! HAHAHA!
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Can you imagine what your mother would have done to you if you had ever written something like that on one of your eggs?

I thought I was a smart-assed kid, but there was so much more unrealized potential.
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Old 09-17-2013, 08:56 AM
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"I, Michael Frost President and lead authenticator of P.A.A.S. Professional Autograph Authentication Services have known Stephen Koschal for over 20 years. I am proud to have worked with Stephen Koschal for many of those years on autograph studies and autograph authentication. I would consider him as the top autograph expert in the world today. Stephen Koschal's library of autograph exemplars is second to none and I have had the pleasure of using and viewing his autograph exemplar library. Stephen Koschal has written many books and 100's of articles on autograph collecting and autograph reviews and authentication. Stephen Koschal is one of my teachers and mentors when it comes to autograph studies and authentication. I have spent 100's of hours working with Stephen Koschal as well as reviewing his authentication work. I have always found him to be very professional and one of the most honest people I ever met within the autograph industry. In all the years I have known Stephen Koschal and worked with him I can not recall a single item ever being returned or questioned on the basis of authentication.".................................. .................................................. ......................Mike Frost, Florida


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Mr. Frost's bio if you are interested.

http://www.paasautographs.com/credentials.html
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Old 09-17-2013, 09:21 AM
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Are these quotes taken out of context, made up, very old, or something else?

"I, Michael Frost President and lead authenticator of P.A.A.S. Professional Autograph Authentication Services have known Stephen Koschal for over 20 years. I am proud to have worked with Stephen Koschal for many of those years on autograph studies and autograph authentication. I would consider him as the top autograph expert in the world today. Stephen Koschal's library of autograph exemplars is second to none and I have had the pleasure of using and viewing his autograph exemplar library. Stephen Koschal has written many books and 100's of articles on autograph collecting and autograph reviews and authentication. Stephen Koschal is one of my teachers and mentors when it comes to autograph studies and authentication. I have spent 100's of hours working with Stephen Koschal as well as reviewing his authentication work. I have always found him to be very professional and one of the most honest people I ever met within the autograph industry. In all the years I have known Stephen Koschal and worked with him I can not recall a single item ever being returned or questioned on the basis of authentication.".................................. .................................................. ......................Mike Frost, Florida


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Stephen has a vast knowledge in certain fields of autographs including presidents, which I do collect. It is possible that I was thanking him for examining a presidential autograph for me that I was considering as a purchase and made such a comment. I don't specifically recall the comment but it is something I might have said in a thank you to him.
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He is PAAS.
Michael- you work with PAAS authenticators ?
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Mr. Koschal and Mr. Frost started PAAS and were the authenticators.
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Mr. Koschal and Mr. Frost started PAAS and were the authenticators.

That would be Richard Simon, Stephen Koschal and myself with Victor from American Memorabilia in Las Vegas.
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T.... Victor from American Memorabilia in Las Vegas.
Now there's an interesting fella.
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Now there's an interesting fella.
'The most interesting man in the world" But he is a fine person and I could not say one thing negative in all the years I know him except he does not drive.

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'The most interesting man in the world" But he is a fine person and I could not say one thing negative in all the years I know him except he does not drive.
I bet some of his consignors may disagree.
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