1933 Foxx - Correct grade?

[parkplace33]

This card is currently up for auction in ML

https://memorylaneinc.com/site/bids/...e?itemid=75955

At first I thought it was a reholder, but it is a new grade with SGC. Are they more lenient with Goudeys? There is a lot of print on the front to warrant a 8.5 but is that okay for this high grade?

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by parkplace33

This card is currently up for auction in ML

https://memorylaneinc.com/site/bids/...e?itemid=75955

At first I thought it was a reholder, but it is a new grade with SGC. Are they more lenient with Goudeys? There is a lot of print on the front to warrant a 8.5 but is that okay for this high grade?

Yikes those corners 8.5 ? I guess if this was a reholdered, they didn’t want to buy back the difference in price and lower the grade.

[The Detroit Collector]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Yikes those corners 8.5 ? I guess if this was a reholdered, they didn’t want to buy back the difference in price and lower the grade.

+1. looks over graded.

[Peter_Spaeth]

It could be a reholder from an earlier grade, much as one sometimes sees with PSA, although with PSA you can often tell by the cert numbers. SGC will reassign a new one.

[BeanTown]

I see they featured 153 lots in their auction and then in lot 154 this card isn’t featured? https://memorylaneinc.com/site/bids/...e?itemid=76053

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by BeanTown

I see they featured 153 lots in their auction and then in lot 154 this card isn’t featured? https://memorylaneinc.com/site/bids/...e?itemid=76053

Do the corners look natural to you?

[Fred]

I wouldn't have pegged it at an 8.5, but somebody did and now the "perception" is there.

We can debate all day whether or not it is an 8.5, but the fact is that it's in an 8.5 slab, therefore it is an 8.5 and it doesn't matter what people see, think and believe.

Baaaaaahhhhh, goes the sheep...

[BeanTown]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Do the corners look natural to you?

Top left looks like a ski jump

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by BeanTown

I see they featured 153 lots in their auction and then in lot 154 this card isn’t featured? https://memorylaneinc.com/site/bids/...e?itemid=76053

It’s not a 8.... it’s more likely Authentic Altered

[Tyruscobb]

Looks obviously trimmed, at least to me.

[Peter_Spaeth]

You wonder what the 2 PSA 9s look like.

[G1911]

I’m shocked Memory Lane doesn’t mention those slopes in their three paragraphs of nauseating hyperbolic hype for the card. I wonder why, considering that we’ve all learned that there is not a stigma against trimmed cards and it wouldn’t hurt the value.

[Casey2296]

Perfect example of the kind of pre-war card that scares me. I just don't trust those edges to be honest, someone will and pay big money for the card though.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Perfect example of the kind of pre-war card that scares me. I just don't trust those edges to be honest, someone will and pay big money for the flip though.

Fixed it for you.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Fixed it for you.

And bow to the almighty registry...

[Peter_Spaeth]

I remember years back someone posted a group of the four Cobbs in PSA 8. Amid the inevitable oohs and ahs and wow just wows, a number of us wondered if cards that noticeably short were really original.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

And bow to the almighty registry...

Is there a registry for SGC cards now?

I suspect most of the PSA registry acolytes would be wary about trying to cross this one over.

So while the registry is a factor for a lot of high graded pieces, I’m not sure the same holds true for pieces in SGC holders, unless the buyer has some expectation that they can successfully cross it.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by raulus

Is there a registry for SGC cards now?

I suspect most of the PSA registry acolytes would be wary about trying to cross this one over.

So while the registry is a factor for a lot of high graded pieces, I’m not sure the same holds true for pieces in SGC holders, unless the buyer has some expectation that they can successfully cross it.

The 8 graded Trimmed Cobb is in a PSA holder.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

The 8 graded Trimmed Cobb is in a PSA holder.

Sometimes it helps to read a thread before commenting on it.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by raulus

Is there a registry for SGC cards now?

I suspect most of the PSA registry acolytes would be wary about trying to cross this one over.

So while the registry is a factor for a lot of high graded pieces, I’m not sure the same holds true for pieces in SGC holders, unless the buyer has some expectation that they can successfully cross it.

No, Sgc screwed the pooch on keeping their registry going and while a crossover would be risky I'm thinking the right submitter could get it crossed.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by raulus

Is there a registry for SGC cards now?

I suspect most of the PSA registry acolytes would be wary about trying to cross this one over.

So while the registry is a factor for a lot of high graded pieces, I’m not sure the same holds true for pieces in SGC holders, unless the buyer has some expectation that they can successfully cross it.

As you know The only Pop Report and Registry in the Hobby that Matters is PSA

Sadly SGC Has no Relevant Registry

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Tyruscobb

Looks obviously trimmed, at least to me.

You’re not the only one who sees that. It looks poorly trimmed, at that.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by G1911

The 8 graded Trimmed Cobb is in a PSA holder.

We must be looking at different links…

This is the card that I’m seeing.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by raulus

We must be looking at different links…

This is the card that I’m seeing.

Read the whole thread and it will make sense.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

As you know The only Pop Report and Registry in the Hobby that Matters is PSA

Sadly SGC Has no Relevant Registry

It's like getting a free virtual coattail ride from PSA to SGC. People may want PSA, but they'll settle for SGC because the rest of the community will accept SGC as a "substitute".

Think PSA = Heroin and SGC (and other TPGs) = methadone. One way or other someone will be able to get a fix, maybe just not the preferred fix.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by Fred

It's like getting a free virtual coattail ride from PSA to SGC. People may want PSA, but they'll settle for SGC because the rest of the community will accept SGC as a "substitute".

Think PSA = Heroin and SGC (and other TPGs) = methadone. One way or other someone will be able to get a fix, maybe just not the preferred fix.

That’s a pretty cool analogy Fred! I dig it :-)

[raulus]

Originally Posted by G1911

Read the whole thread and it will make sense.

Thanks. My mistake not clicking the new link midway through. I just lazily assumed it was the same as from the OP.