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Old 12-02-2023, 11:37 AM
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Default The All One-and-Done HOF voting team (no PEDs)

There have been some great players that have only received one shot at a HOF vote.

This list is not to be confused with ones that includes players like Bill Dahlen or Luis Tiant that have had multiple chances/votes.

I am not advocating that any of these players belong in the HOF (though some of them probably do), but it is a bit surprising how few votes many of the players received.

The %s listed are what % of the vote the players got in the one year they were voted on:

1B) Tie: Will Clark (4.4%) and John Olerud (.7%)
2B) Tie: Lou Whitaker (2.9%) and Bobby Grich (2.6%)
SS) Jack Glasscock (2.6%)
3B) Tie: Buddy Bell (1.7%) and Sal Bando (.7%)
LF) Tie: Lance Berkman (1.2%) and Luis Gonzalez (.9%)
CF) Kenny Lofton (3.2%)
RF) Reggie Smith (.7%)
C) Gene Tenace (.2%)
DH) Brian Downing (.4%)
RHSP) Tie: Jim McCormick (no vote), Rick Reuschel (.4%) and David Cone (3.9%), Brett Saberhagen (1.3%)
LHSP) Johan Santana (2.4%) and Chuck Finley (.2%)
RP) Dan Quisenberry (3.8%)

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I'm biased due to my love for the 19th century game but Glasscock and McCormick should both be in the hall!
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Willie Randolph at 1.1% is pretty stunning.
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Carlos Delgado was another one and done. Got 3.8% and was off the ballot. He probably doesn’t belong but he is close and seems to me to have clearly merited an honest look and analysis rather than the dismissal he got.
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Kevin Brown too. 67 WAR, 127 ERA+, 2.1% and done.
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Jim Edmonds.

How about one and done but then got in? Ted Simmons.
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Kevin Brown too. 67 WAR, 127 ERA+, 2.1% and done.
PEDs?
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I always thought Magglio Ordonez flew way under the radar.

Moises Alou almost certainly deserves a spot on this kind of team. I always thought he was a solid, though not great player. Like a half-step down from Vlad but far better than most.

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I always thought Magglio Ordonez flew way under the radar.
He had a couple of big years counting stat wise, and that one year with the huge BA, but career WAR under 40.
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He had a couple of big years counting stat wise, and that one year with the huge BA, but career WAR under 40.
True not a great player. I always liked him. One homer and one RBI away from five straight 30-100 seasons.
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At 64 WAR Reggie Smith was one and done.
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At 64 WAR Reggie Smith was one and done.
that's why he's the RF
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that's why he's the RF
Ah I missed that.
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PEDs?
Yep; but PED guys usually clear the 5%. Sheffield gets over 50%, plus all the A tier Bonds/Clemens types guys. Andy Pettite has got significant votes (17% last year) as a PED pitcher who was probably not as good as Brown.
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Yep; but PED guys usually clear the 5%. Sheffield gets over 50%, plus all the A tier Bonds/Clemens types guys. Andy Pettite has got significant votes (17% last year) as a PED pitcher who was probably not as good as Brown.
As the thread title implies, was trying to avoid the PED guys, but I guess they will always come up.
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Looks like advanced stats are not kind to Alfonso Soriano and Paul Konerko. Both one and done and seemed a lot better when they were playing.
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As the thread title implies, was trying to avoid the PED guys, but I guess they will always come up.
I apologize.
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I apologize.
Haha, finally
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Don Mattingly and Fred Lynn were 2 of the best players I ever saw in their prime.

The HOF has all kind of quirky rules that require long periods of batting .275

Gonzo hit 57 hr the year Bonds hit 73.
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There should be a handful of additional candidates after this year's voting. A lot of "really good, but not Hall of Fame guys" on the list.
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