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Old 10-08-2006, 08:03 PM
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Posted By: bill

I just saw antiques road show
someone found around 40 1880's cards
they had four of the hall of fame allen & ginters anson-comiskey-ward-& sombody else they looked like they where in real great untouched condition
also had around 37 old judges buck ewing, mutrie, and I think
o'neal these also looked to be in pretty good condition
the appraiser said he thought they could get $12-$15k.
anyone else see that and have any comments.

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Old 10-08-2006, 08:09 PM
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Posted By: Turner Engle

I saw that last night, while I was flipping through the channels.

If I recall correctly it was two women who owned all of them.

I didnt catch where they were found though.

I thought it was pretty weird, because all you mainly see getting appraised is art, pottery, guns, etc.

There was also another time where Goudey Indian cards were found in a closet.

Pretty neat.

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Old 10-08-2006, 08:13 PM
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Posted By: Joann

Who was the appraiser? I'm trying to decide if the estimate is right, but that's hard to say without seeing condition. But it certainly could be reasonable.

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Posted By: Max Weder

The appraiser was from Lelands. Over the years, a number of cards and ephemera finds show up on the roadshow. I recall a set of cracker jacks that was unfortunately pasted to a board.

The cards looked like they were in very nice shape.

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Old 10-08-2006, 08:16 PM
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Posted By: jay behrens

They usually have someone from Lelands apprasing sports related items. I've seen a number of shows that featured nice groups of vintage cards, but I could care less about the sports stuff that comes in. I like all the other things that come through. Furniture still mystifies me as to why anyone would pay the insane amounts of money that some of that stuff goes for. Guess I have no appreciation for it. To me it's kind of like spending a few grand on a suit when one for a few hundred dollars looks just as good.

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Old 10-08-2006, 08:21 PM
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Posted By: Max Weder

Jay

Just make sure the furniture deals with vintage baseball (assuming a mirror can be considered furniture...)



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Old 10-08-2006, 10:14 PM
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Posted By: joe brennan

The show was from Cleveland in 2003. He appraised the lot at $15K. these cards were pack fresh and he was astounded by the quality. they ad not see nthe light of day for 50 years. Just 3 years later, just 1 of the cards would sell for $15K. If she hung onto the collection, it would easily sell between 50 to $80K today. Nota bad increase in 3 years.

People said it was a million dollar wound. But the government must keep that money, cause I ain't never seen a penny of it.

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Posted By: Judge Dred (Fred)

Run Forrest run...

Yup, pack fresh OJs (especially HOF and highly sought after cards like Mutrie or Whitney and Dog) would do very well these days... Throw them to SGC or PSA, if they get crazy 8s then the prices could become pretty crazy...

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Old 10-09-2006, 05:29 PM
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Posted By: Mike

Here's the Cracker Jacks that were on the show:

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Posted By: JimB

If I remember correcly, didn't the person take otherwise nm cjs and glue them onto that board?
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Posted By: Brett

I remember that one about the Cracker Jacks. The guy put a dab of glue in each of the 4 corners of every card and tuck it into that shelf thing. I think the women said it was worth about $2000 or something. Must have been a while ago, because i've seen PSA Cobbs alone go for over $1000, and there were many HOFers in that group !

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Posted By: scott brockelman

They intentionally low ball these people and then try to buy the items. This happens quite often on ATRS.

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Posted By: Seth B.

That dude has a killer mullet. That's a PSA 10 haircut right there (trimmed on the sides). Hahahaha.

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Posted By: jay behrens

Nah, it's more like an 8. It's too long on the sides to be a true 10.

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

I'm sure I mentioned this before, but I took some Nodder/bobbleheads of Mao and Kruschev to have them appraised at the Antique Road Show and the lady damn near busted my Kruschev she was shaking it so hard. She appraised them at $10 each. I just laughed at her and asked if Ted Hake was around to laugh at her too. I sold both of those nodders on the Nodder exchange for $1700. These "Appraisers" on the ARS really have no clue...except for the people from Lelands and maybe Leigh and Leslie Keno. My mother is a doll collector and she took some of her dolls to have the doll guy...(whoever that is?) look them over. She was sorely disappointed to find out that she too knew more than the so called expert...an expert that she once admired. And I'm almost certain that they are there to lowball you because every one of them has their business card on the table in front of them when they are "appraising" your item. I took some Old Judge/T206 and other assorted prewar cards and had Simeon Lipman look them over. He liked what he saw, but my story wasn't good enough for TV. You basically have to be unaware, and shocked at the value of your item to get on TV....or at least fake it.

PS if you ever go and you want to get the free T-shirt as you're leaving don't make up your phone number on the form they have you fill out because they'll ask you to repeat it after you hand the card back to them.....they got me on that one.

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Posted By: Rob L

I have taken things to the Antiques Roadshow twice and each time they approached me regarding whether I was interested in selling. The first time I went, I took a bunch of T201 cards. Lipman looked at them, said the Cobb/Crawford I had was worth $ 1500 to $ 2000 and then asked it I was looking to sell the cards.

The second time I went, I took 10 or 11 19th Century baseballs, a bibbed jersey, several cabinets and tintypes and one or two 19th century bats. Two of the appraisers looked at everything, went to talk in private and then decided I knew too much about what the items were. They figured I knew more about the value then they did. They basically said that if I had come in with a story of "I inherited these or I found these in the attic" then I they would have showcased them. They also asked if anything was for sale.

Good stuff.

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Posted By: JimB

I thought they told the guy that before he glued them onto the board they were worth about 100k, but after the damage, they were worth about 2k.
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Posted By: barrysloate

I've told this story before but it is worth repeating here. Some of you may remember that a couple of years ago I auctioned an Allen & Ginter baseball poster for a family from Pennsylvania. It realized 29K and is probably worth at least that today. The owner told me the story that a few years prior to our meeting, her community held an antiques appraisal day similar to the roadshow and encouraged people to bring in old things to have them appraised. Since she received the poster as a gift (some gift) she had no idea of its value and brought it to the expert to find out what it was worth. The appraiser told her around $200. If that wasn't bad enough, she got a call a few days later from the same woman who now made an offer of $500. The only thing that made her suspicious was that the offer was so much higher than the appraisal. Had it first been appraised for $500, she admitted she might have sold it. So here was an afternoon activity scheduled for a senior citizen's community to help them get an idea of what their antiques were worth and it was just a big scam. I guess it must happen all the time.

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

I just watched the Cleveland episode and it was Simeon Lipman who appraised the cards. Those cards were all dead mint. That is one lucky kid who got those cards.

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Posted By: Ricky Y

It's fascinating to watch the Antique Road show...I admit I'm hooked on it. They did take a hit on their reputation a few years back though, when a pair of appraisers were kicked off for having an "staged" appraisal of a supposedly rare find of a Civil War sword. That sword it was later found was brought in by a friend of one of the appraisers. They also were found guilty of defrauding the descendants of a Confederate General's artifacts which were bought at a low price and resold later at a much higher price.

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