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Old 10-27-2007, 12:41 AM
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Posted By: Peter Calderon

Just in case there were any lingering thoughts that maybe the "Skydash" collection wasn't 100% legit...




...and MUCH more to follow.

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Posted By: Trevor Hocking

I would like to say WOW That is an AMAZING thing!!!!!!!

Congrats to Mastro for getting that amazing collection. I am sure it will do very very well. I know I will be bidding!!!

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Posted By: Rhett Yeakley

Great card! I gotta admit though that I didn't think you could get an 8.5 with the back centering like that. Regardless, it is a great item.
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Posted By: davidcycleback

Plus it has rounded corners, all 27 of them.

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Posted By: John S

Simply incredible...(drool).

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Old 10-27-2007, 03:43 AM
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Posted By: Jeff Mohler

I see SGC has put a "provenance" label on it, just like Lionel Carter! This must be a great collection. I feel kind of privileged to have witnessed the development of the Skydash saga from his first post asking for the name of a good appraiser to this post. I can't wait to see what other cards will be coming next.

What an awesome card!

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Posted By: barrysloate

Doesn't surprise me. When I first saw the scan I thought it might get a 92.

But there's one thing funny here. The label reads "Skydash Collection" but that is not the owner's name, that's a nickname. Using a nickname for provenance is certainly unusual.

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Posted By: Steve Murray

I wonder if we on the Board are the only ones who know the owner as Skydash? If so that's quite a tribute to those here who helped him out with the collection.

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Posted By: rand

i dont know much about "chips" cards. what is this card's value? would this be the most valuable in his group? tx

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Posted By: Eric

Very, very cool.

Maybe the reason for using "Skydash Collection" as the designation, has to do with him wanting to keep his name anonymous. I know I would want the same thing in this case, instead of using my real name in the collection.

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Posted By: Eric

I want to add:

Protection from people looking for money, people trying to look up personal information on you, etc.

Nickname all the way.

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Old 10-27-2007, 05:57 AM
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Posted By: Tom Boblitt

is all I can say...........this card will sell for a small to medium midwest house type price I'd say........just a beautiful piece. Was great seeing everything unfold for 'SKYDASH'. I talked with him on the phone for about 45 minutes one day and would say he's a genuinely great guy. Hope this all works out for him and his family.

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Posted By: barrysloate

Makes sense, just seems kind of funny. Can't think of any precedent.

And I think it will sell for somewhere in the vicinity of 100K, give or take.

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Posted By: Jimmy

just a great item and story, I look forward to seeing the other cards.

interesting that SGC used the Net54 user name and not his real name

Jimmy

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Posted By: Joe D.

and I love the 'skydash' on the flip.

It shows there is a high regard for this board in the hobby.

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Old 10-27-2007, 08:19 AM
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Posted By: leon

That is one great looking card.....thanks for sharing...

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Old 10-27-2007, 08:28 AM
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

One observation: how much better does that Thorpe look in an SGC holder with the black background than in a PSA slab?

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Posted By: RC

It kind of makes a person want to go through your neighbors attics doesn't it?

Congrats to Skydash and best wishes on his sales.

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Posted By: JK

Jeff - what? you don't like the floating in a condom look?

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Posted By: barrysloate

It sure does look great in that holder. That's some card!

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Posted By: Neal

Totally AMAZING! CONGRATS TO SKYDASH AND WISH HIM MUCH LUCK!!! WOULD LOVE TOO SEE A FEW MORE EXAMPLES!!!

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

Yeah, Josh, can you imagine that Thorpe in a PSA holder sliding all over the place? And then mislabeling it?

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Posted By: Jeff Prizner

That is going to be one expensive pog!

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Posted By: Jason L

we're gonna need to see more before we are impressed.

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Old 10-27-2007, 09:11 AM
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Posted By: Richard Masson

so let's see the Jackson......

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Old 10-27-2007, 09:13 AM
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Posted By: Wesley

That's a card worthy of the Dorskin Entertainment Group collection.

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Posted By: Alan

Mazel Tov to Skydash. Looking forward to seeing it in catalogs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz2o0OYjVzU

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Posted By: Ricky Y

Wow..what a great piece! Congrats to Skydash too! Thorpe never looked better!

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Posted By: Bob

Eric, I agree with your theory concerning anonymity but I think it is kind of odd to have "Skydash Collection" instead of "Barney Thomas Collection" since only 54ers know him as skydash. It would be different if he were known around the hobby as skydash but the guy is pretty anonymous, don't you think?

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Posted By: Eric

Bob....True, True.

And a good way to stay anonymous at that.

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Posted By: quan

spectacular!...although i find the "skydash" pedigree unnecessary. best of luck $$$.

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

WOW! Stunning....we want to see more!

Congrats Skydash...one of the alltime great hobby stories unfolded right on our Net54 board.

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Posted By: Anonymous

I appreciate all the responses. Barry,I agree with your observation.The naming of the collection was done with mixed feelings.The reason behind it has to due with a desire to remain totally anonymous. I would have much rather named it after the individual I got them from,but that wasn't my call. So....."Skydash" it is. I hope more pictures are posted as well.

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Posted By: Richard Masson

Since Skydash's father in law or grandfather or something put together the collection, they should have pedigreed them with his name.

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Posted By: Brian Weisner


Hi Richard,
I think we all agree, family included, that it would be nice to have had the original collectors name on the cards, but it simply wasn't practical. Everyone recognizes the collection as being "Skydash's", and I think that is probably how the original collector would have wanted it. I think he was probably a lot like Carter, Barker, and Bray, in that he collected for the joy of it, not for the value. Be well Brian


PS The collection is incredible..... I can't wait for you guys to see it..

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Posted By: barrysloate

Hi Sky (real name withheld)

Actually, Skydash has a nice ring to it. It's kind of catchy.

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Posted By: Tom Boblitt

Has an interesting ring to it.


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Posted By: Ed Ivey

"Skydash" has a nice screenplay ring to it. It could start with the Thorpe sitting on a pile of trash (if I remember the story correctly - at a dump site?). Sunrise barely on the horizon. Cue music (Neil Young would be cool). Close up Thorpe. Twinkle Thorpe's eye with computer animation. Roll opening credits.... How much for the rights sky?

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Posted By: Paul

Does anyone know why this card is so incredibly rare? I know the overall set is very tough, but this card in particular is impossible. Even if there were only 10 each of the "common" cards in this set, how do you explain the existence of only 2 or 3 Thorpes (and 2 or 3 Jacksons)? Could there really be 8 Thorpes and Jacksons squirrelled away secretly in some of the finest collections?

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Posted By: Paul Kaufman

How absurd to put a fictitious name on the label. This ranks right up there with PSA's "Mr. X Collection" fiasco. Since when does SGC play a role in protecting someone's identity. I thought they were there to grade/authenticate cards. Would have been much better to leave the name off if it was not possible to put the original collector's name on the label IMHO.

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Posted By: skydash

Mr. Kaufman,
I can appreciate your position.Every auction house I talked with encouraged me to name this collection due to the large,varied,and remarkable condition of the set.Please don't hold it against me.I was following the advice of people who have been in the hobby most of their lives.

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Posted By: Marc

I agree, the 'skydash' name ruined it. If I were the original collector, I would be outraged to think all my hard work over the years putting this collection together was forgotten. And to top it off, the credit is given under a fake name in reference to someone who didn't put the collection together in the first place. It was only 'passed' down through the family to someone who is only related by marriage. Just my two cents.... A sad ending to a wonderful story.

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Posted By: Rob Dewolf

Would anyone like to venture a guess what percentage of board members, if they were to win $10,000 in the lottery, would only complain about the denominations of the bills that were used to pay them off?

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Posted By: Paul Kaufman

Obviously, the collection is spectacular and will stand on its own. Any future owner could always have the item reholdered without the false name.

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Posted By: RC

I personally don't mind the Skydash reference. Obviously, anyone who followed the story on Net54 understands the connection. The hope for anonymity is understandable as well, how many of us would want everyone to know that your family just had a huge windfall?

As far as the hard work of the original collector being forgotten, I would think that they would be thrilled to know that the collection was saved from the trash, if not for that fact we wouldn't even be having this conversation and a tremendous collection would have been lost forever.

Skydash - You don't have to apologize for anything, you saved a lot of "old cardboard" from being destroyed and we as collectors will have the opportunity to view and perhaps purchase a portion of that collection.

Thanks, RC

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Posted By: Paul S

All these strong feelings about the name on the flip? To paraphrase something oftimes ( <-- ain't I Dorskindsian?)said on this forum, "Buy the card, not the (name on the) holder."
Congrats Dash!

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Posted By: Bob Pomilla

Can't help but think, that, if these cards were referered to as the "Joe Smith" collection, gripers would be complaining about the confusion it caused, since everyone knows these as Skydashes cards.

Congrats, once again, Skydash.

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Posted By: DMcD

Skydash: Three Cheers!!! Let's see some more.
Rob Dewolf: Right on, dude. Some of you folks really pick your moments.
Paul S: Ain't we Dorskindsian?

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Posted By: Rob Dewolf

"Yeah, we visited the Louvre and saw the Mona Lisa. I hated the frame."

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Posted By: Al Simeone

Rob,
I will take mine in JACKSONS!! FRANKLIN wasnt a president!!!
Skydash the best of luck with the collection!I think the only luck you will need is not getting hurt pushing the wheelbarrow to the bank when its finished!!!

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