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T330-2 Piedmont Art Stamps...where are they?

It seems like most are now on this thread...great show and tell everyone!


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These things are either tough or just not desireable or maybe a combination of both...I haven't added one to my collection in quite a while...an Ebay search just yielded a grand total of 3! I am interested in knowing the most different stamps anyone has been able to collect? Has anyone ever put together a set or seen one?

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I've been seeking the Danny Murphy for my Murphy collection for years now. Hope I find one eventually.
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I believe Dan Gantt had assembled the largest known collection of these and recently sold them all at REA. The collection consisted of 93 unique examples out of the checklisted 118.

I have "discovered" another unchecklisted variation, which puts the set total at 119. More to come on that topic.

After purchasing Mr. Gantt's Piedmont Stamp collection earlier this year and some follow-on purchases/trades, I currently have 109 of the 119 unique fronts, although I believe that some of the checklisted examples might not actually exist. More to come on that topic as well.
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1911 T332 Helmar Stamps.................: 178/180 (98.9%)
1914 T330-2 Piedmont Art Stamps......: 109/119 (91.6%)
1923 V100 Willard's Chocolate............: 111/180 (61.7%)
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Congrats!...That seems to be the only way to accumulate a large amount of these...purchase another collection...would love to see pics of them...after I got my 30th one years ago it seems I will never reach 40 which is still not even half a set

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Regarding my prior post, the current checklist for the 1914 T330-2 Piedmont Stamps set does not include the two variations for Roger Bresnahan that can also be found in the T205 set - specifically, the Mouth Closed and Mouth Open variations:



This would put the set at 119 total (vs. the catalogued 118).

Additionally, there are seven catalogued stamps for which I have never seen an image. Of these, it is very possible that a few do not actually exist:
  • Bill Dahlen - Dahlen was out of baseball by 1911, and the makers of this set were fairly diligent in making team updates and removing players who were no longer playing by 1913/1914. This stamp is very unlikely to exist, despite being catalogued.
    Clyde Engle - started out playing with Boston in 1914; moved to the Buffalo (Federal League) team mid-1914; T330-2 probably does exist, per checklists; I just haven't confirmed yet
    William "Wilbur" Good - w/ Chicago Cubs from 1911-1915; T330-2 is likely (and catalogued)
    Chief Meyers - w/ NY Giants from 1909-1915; T330-2 is likely (and catalogued)
    George Moriarty - w/ Detroit from 1909-1915; T330-2 is likely (and catalogued)
    Freddy Parent - out of baseball by 1911; T330-2 is unlikely to exist, but is catalogued
    Kaiser Wilhelm - out of baseball from 1911-1913; joined Baltimore of Federal League in 1914; T330-2 is unlikely to exist, but is catalogued and is possible

Using the T205 and T202 sets as potential candidates - I've ignored players who were in the T205 set but were out of the majors by 1913 - here is a list of players who could have possibly had a Piedmont Stamp produced (although none have yet been catalogued):
  • Lena Blackburne - was w/ Chicago White Sox in 1914 but was in Milwaukee (minor leagues) for all of 1913 and most of 1912 after not playing all of 1911; T330-2 unlikely, but possible
    Walt Dickson - unlikely - was in Federal League w/ Pittsburgh in 1914; he was with NY Giants in 1910 (for his T205 card) and played in Brooklyn from 1912-1913; T330-2 is possible
    Bob Harmon - 2 Ears Show - he has the left ear example in the stamps set, so this one is certainly possible; the set shows him playing for Pittsburgh - he played there from 1914 to 1918. His T205 shows him with the St. Louis squad.
    Fred Jacklitsch - was in minors from 1911-1913; played for Baltimore of Federal League starting in 1914; T330-2 is possible, but unlikely
    John Kling - out of majors after 1913; didn't play in 1914; T330-2 unlikely, but possible if this was not known ahead of time
    Frank Lange - out of majors after 1913; T330-2 unlikely, but possible
    Bris Lord - ended career with Boston Braves in 1913; T330-2 unlikely, but possible if unknown that he would no longer be playing
    Albert "Lefty Leifield - no longer with CHC after 1913 - didn't play in majors again until 1918; T330-2 is possible, but unlikely
    Charley O'Leary - final season was 1913 w/ St. Louis (after many seasons 1904-1912 w/ Detroit); T330-2 possible, but unlikely
    Orval Overall - out of baseball from 1911-1912; came back in 1913 but ineffective; out of baseball before 1914; T330-2 is possible, but unlikely
    Edward Phelps - played sparingly in 1913 for Brooklyn; out of baseball before 1914; T330-2 possible, but unlikely
    Jimmy Sheckard - no longer in baseball following 1913 (splitting time with Cardinals and Reds) after long career with Brooklyn and Chicago; T330-2 is possible, but unlikely
    Hack Simmons - minor leagues in 1913; w/ Baltimore of Federal League in 1914; T330-2 is possible, but unlikely
    John Titus - final season was 1913 with Brooklyn (decent stats); T330-2 is possible, but unlikely
    Doc White - final season was 1913 with Chicago White Sox; T330-2 is possible, but unlikely
    Harry Wolter - no longer with NYY after end of 1913; out of baseball from 1914 until 1917; T330-2 is possible, but unlikely

My guess, based on the evidence presented here, is that there won't be any more uncatalogued Piedmont Stamps that surface in the future (unless a Bob Harmon w/ 2 Ears Showing variation decides to make an appearance). I'd love to get images of the front and back for any of the seven stamps that I have yet to see. Please share 'em if you've got 'em.
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1911 T332 Helmar Stamps.................: 178/180 (98.9%)
1914 T330-2 Piedmont Art Stamps......: 109/119 (91.6%)
1923 V100 Willard's Chocolate............: 111/180 (61.7%)

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Nice post, Derek. Thanks for sharing.
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Regarding my prior post, the current checklist for the 1914 T330-2 Piedmont Stamps set does not include the two variations for Roger Bresnahan that can also be found in the T205 set - specifically, the Mouth Closed and Mouth Open variations:



This would put the set at 119 total (vs. the catalogued 118).

Additionally, there are seven catalogued stamps for which I have never seen an image. Of these, it is very possible that a few do not actually exist:
  • Bill Dahlen - Dahlen was out of baseball by 1911, and the makers of this set were fairly diligent in making team updates and removing players who were no longer playing by 1913/1914. This stamp is very unlikely to exist, despite being catalogued.
    Clyde Engle - started out playing with Boston in 1914; moved to the Buffalo (Federal League) team mid-1914; T330-2 probably does exist, per checklists; I just haven't confirmed yet
    William "Wilbur" Good - w/ Chicago Cubs from 1911-1915; T330-2 is likely (and catalogued)
    Chief Meyers - w/ NY Giants from 1909-1915; T330-2 is likely (and catalogued)
    George Moriarty - w/ Detroit from 1909-1915; T330-2 is likely (and catalogued)
    Freddy Parent - out of baseball by 1911; T330-2 is unlikely to exist, but is catalogued
    Kaiser Wilhelm - out of baseball from 1911-1913; joined Baltimore of Federal League in 1914; T330-2 is unlikely to exist, but is catalogued and is possible

Using the T205 and T202 sets as potential candidates - I've ignored players who were in the T205 set but were out of the majors by 1913 - here is a list of players who could have possibly had a Piedmont Stamp produced (although none have yet been catalogued):
  • Lena Blackburne - was w/ Chicago White Sox in 1914 but was in Milwaukee (minor leagues) for all of 1913 and most of 1912 after not playing all of 1911; T330-2 unlikely, but possible
    Walt Dickson - unlikely - was in Federal League w/ Pittsburgh in 1914; he was with NY Giants in 1910 (for his T205 card) and played in Brooklyn from 1912-1913; T330-2 is possible
    Bob Harmon - 2 Ears Show - he has the left ear example in the stamps set, so this one is certainly possible; the set shows him playing for Pittsburgh - he played there from 1914 to 1918. His T205 shows him with the St. Louis squad.
    Fred Jacklitsch - was in minors from 1911-1913; played for Baltimore of Federal League starting in 1914; T330-2 is possible, but unlikely
    John Kling - out of majors after 1913; didn't play in 1914; T330-2 unlikely, but possible if this was not known ahead of time
    Frank Lange - out of majors after 1913; T330-2 unlikely, but possible
    Bris Lord - ended career with Boston Braves in 1913; T330-2 unlikely, but possible if unknown that he would no longer be playing
    Albert "Lefty Leifield - no longer with CHC after 1913 - didn't play in majors again until 1918; T330-2 is possible, but unlikely
    Charley O'Leary - final season was 1913 w/ St. Louis (after many seasons 1904-1912 w/ Detroit); T330-2 possible, but unlikely
    Orval Overall - out of baseball from 1911-1912; came back in 1913 but ineffective; out of baseball before 1914; T330-2 is possible, but unlikely
    Edward Phelps - played sparingly in 1913 for Brooklyn; out of baseball before 1914; T330-2 possible, but unlikely
    Jimmy Sheckard - no longer in baseball following 1913 (splitting time with Cardinals and Reds) after long career with Brooklyn and Chicago; T330-2 is possible, but unlikely
    Hack Simmons - minor leagues in 1913; w/ Baltimore of Federal League in 1914; T330-2 is possible, but unlikely
    John Titus - final season was 1913 with Brooklyn (decent stats); T330-2 is possible, but unlikely
    Doc White - final season was 1913 with Chicago White Sox; T330-2 is possible, but unlikely
    Harry Wolter - no longer with NYY after end of 1913; out of baseball from 1914 until 1917; T330-2 is possible, but unlikely

My guess, based on the evidence presented here, is that there won't be any more uncatalogued Piedmont Stamps that surface in the future (unless a Bob Harmon w/ 2 Ears Showing variation decides to make an appearance). I'd love to get images of the front and back for any of the seven stamps that I have yet to see. Please share 'em if you've got 'em.
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I've been watching for a Yankee to add to my collection for a couple years and haven't found any.....really tough set !!!!
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