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Old 08-06-2018, 08:39 PM
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I think it was more a reference to pack prices. In the 80's I could buy packs for 50˘ (and less) what's an average pack go for today? An average box? I think they've gone up at a lot more than the rate of inflation.
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I think it was more a reference to pack prices. In the 80's I could buy packs for 50˘ (and less) what's an average pack go for today? An average box? I think they've gone up at a lot more than the rate of inflation.
Huh? With terms like “ grading” , “ stickers” and “plastic”- where are you getting the reference to pack prices?
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because that historically is how kids enter the market. It is also how manufacturers can price kids out of it. The secondary market is pricing kids out if your problem is with one of ones and refractors and whatnot.
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As a "collector' since the 1940's I find this entire thing of grading and now some kind of stickers etc. one of the dumbest things I have ever heard of. No, I get it. Those of you who are in love with plastic instead of the product itself good bless you but you are REALLY hurting those of us who truly love what USED to be the "hobby".
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My only concern is whether or not the plastic in the holders will damage the cards over time. The HOF doesn't keep cards in holders; not sure that's the reason why. It seems you take on some element of risk no matter what you do.
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I think it was more a reference to pack prices. In the 80's I could buy packs for 50˘ (and less) what's an average pack go for today? An average box? I think they've gone up at a lot more than the rate of inflation.
Running through an inflation calculator I found online, 50 cents in 1984 has the buying power of $1.23 now. So definitely not the same as a pack of the regular series Topps. That said, the cards are much better quality today and there is a better chance to get a card of value (considering autos, SPs, etc.).

And just off the top of my head, as I've bought a few Pokemon packs in recent months, but a pack of baseball cards I think is priced competitively against other cards, toys, games and the like that kids would be interested in today.
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1. When you have as much money as you have exchanging hands for certain cards i.e. T206 Cobb, 1952 Topps Mantle, 1951 Bowman Mantle, etc. you are going to have to have some sort of 3rd party involved to independently verify/take on some sort of liability. Grading/certifying things isn't exclusive to sports cards/trading cards. It's also usually required when insuring an item of that nature as well.

2. If there is money to be made, you better expect for there to be numerous hoards of unscrupulous people ready to take advantage of the uneducated and untrained. Card grading has greatly reduced the ability of crooks to take advantage of unwitting buyers who have money, but no idea as to what they are looking at in regards to condition or even legitimacy. It's not a 100% fool-proof thing because humans are involved, but the ability to know you're buying something that's 100% legit and in a specific condition is almost worth it's weight in gold to most.

3. Just because you collected cards as a kid and see it as a hobby only doesn't mean those who have more money than you or others and can afford higher-ticket items and/or treat it as a business are bad people. Should I be pissed at millionaires because they can go buy rare fully-restored classic cars that I can't afford because restoring classic cars is a "hobby." Hell no.

People like the OP are just full of sour-grapes because the hobby/industry passed them by and they simply aren't able to effectively operate in the climate of today. Sorry, but things change and we progress as humans (well, most of us anyway).
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