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Fleer just went out of business
Posted By: Jimi
Sad news today in the card world as Fleer has apparantly gone under. I know most of us associate them as competing with Donruss and Topps in the 80s and 90s, but they actually started in 1923. Here's the article: http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/12117930.htm |
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Fleer just went out of business
Posted By: jay behrens
The sadest statement was the comment made by someone who asked about the remaining memorabilia in Fleer's inventory. He commented that there was a lot of really cool stuff there, unfortunately, all the signatures have been removed |
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Fleer just went out of business
Posted By: Mike H
If it hadn't been for Fleer, Donruss, Upper Deck etc. the card hobby as a whole, would be in better shape. When Topps lost it's monopoly, the prices jumped and double dipped refractor inverted ducksquat high gloss inserts where everywhere. It became impossible to collect everything. It was great when you could ask for a 1971 Ernie Banks and everyone knew what you were talking about. In this instance, competition killed the industry. I hope all but one company goes under. |
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Fleer just went out of business
Posted By: scgaynor
Actually, I think just the opposite. 1981 was the year that I first went card crazy and a big part of that was the introduction of Fleer and Donruss to the marketplace. Fleer and Donruss introduced the error card craze, which is one of the first huge epochs in baseball trading card history. |
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Fleer just went out of business
Posted By: Jimi
with you, Scott. I really feel that Upper Deck was more responsible. That showed what an "elite" card could be with holograms, a quality picture, and a futuristic look. Fleer and Donruss cards from the early days were so awfully produced with bad photography, errors, etc. I give them both props for hangin' in there as long as they did. |
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Fleer just went out of business
Posted By: Richard
Upper Deck and Topps. I believe that the Bowman brand is owned by Topps. |
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Fleer just went out of business
Posted By: Richard
There still is a big 3: |
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Fleer just went out of business
Posted By: Richard
I don't know if I agree with you. |
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Fleer just went out of business
Posted By: David H
I stopped collecting in 1981 and only resumed in 2000. I say good riddance to Fleer. All of these crazy stupid sets, its a joke, profits driving it all. |
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Fleer just went out of business
Posted By: Julie
I can't remember how it starts, but (and based on ACTUAL experience), this is how it ends: |
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Fleer just went out of business
Posted By: DJ
Yeah, Upper Deck is too blame but it could have just as easily been Score. When Score came out, they were 'the thing'. When Upper Deck...'What? $1.25 for a pack?". Then in 1991, Topps had to compete with UD and bring out 'Stadium Club' and brought back 'the series' and then Fleer came out with Flair and the rest is history. I believe Fleer came out with packs that only had inserts in Football. |
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Fleer just went out of business
Posted By: Chris Counts
I, for one, will miss Fleer. I realize that any discussion of Fleer will venture dangerously into the post WWII era, but I'll take my chances anyway. |
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Fleer just went out of business
Posted By: DJ
From SI.com: |
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Fleer just went out of business
Posted By: cmoking
great article posted by DJ! |
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Fleer just went out of business
Posted By: DJ
Thanks. Here is the complete article: |
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Fleer just went out of business
Posted By: Glenn
Like a pro or like PRO? |
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Fleer just went out of business
Posted By: DJ
I have no affiliation with PRO, my slip. |
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Fleer just went out of business
Posted By: cmoking
I didn't read the article, and I don't know their financial status, but I'm assuming there is a ton of debt owed by Fleer. The purchaser assumes the debt. So the $2 million probably costs a lot more as the buyer has to inject money into it. |
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Fleer just went out of business
Posted By: DJ
According to court filings, Fleer has debts of nearly $40 million. |
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Fleer just went out of business
Posted By: warshawlaw
I don't think anyone should cheer its passing for two reasons: |
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Posted By: DJJ
Upper Deck has purchased Fleer for $6.1 million. |
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Fleer just went out of business
Posted By: cmoking
warshaw, thanks for the clearing up my ignorance. |
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