Mantle Master Set Variations

[Bestdj777]

Originally Posted by Bestdj777

Have any of you been able to purchase, or at least seen, the 1962 Post Canadian 163 Hits "4th time" variation? I have yet to see this variation, and it is the last card I need for my Post/Jello subset (I am not looking to buy given a lack of funds right now, but I would love to see a scan or at least get confirmation that it exists).

Just wanted to follow up quickly to confirm that this variation does exist. I finally came across one on ebay. Unfortunately, the seller is asking $3,000 for it, which is probably $2,800 more than the card is worth.

[whiteymet]

Hi All:

Mantle does come with both the the MUTOSCOPE and plain line versions on the Exhibit Postcard Backs. See below.

PSA or the submitter (is that a word??) did not know enough or chose not to list it as a postcard back for some reason.

In any event I am always looking for these PC backs. My wants and those available to trade are:

EXHIBIT POSTCARD BACK WANTLIST EITHER BACK:

Ritchie Ashburn MADE IN U.S.A., Campanella, Hodgers, Kaline, Kluzewski, Mathews, Musial, Reese, Robinson, Sauer, Snider

NEED W/MUTOSCOPE BACK: Adcock, Atwell, Banks, Baumholtz, Berra, Feller, Gromek, Kellner, Lockman, Mays, McDougald, Mele, Pafko, Porterfield, Schoendienst, Trucks, Waitkus, Woodling, Zernial, Indians Team card


NEED W/O MUTOSCOPE: Baker, Bilko, Doby, Hegan, Irvin, Maglie, Minoso, Mitchell, Stephens,

DUPES: Dropo, Fain (Muto) , Goodman, Groth, Hermanski, Lockman, Schmitz, Trucks, Vernon, Wertz (Muto), Zernial.

[baldeaglefan]

Originally Posted by Bestdj777

Just wanted to follow up quickly to confirm that this variation does exist. I finally came across one on ebay. Unfortunately, the seller is asking $3,000 for it, which is probably $2,800 more than the card is worth.

Yes, it does exist. I have one and I know of another collector who has one. According to Dan W. Mabey's Northern Exposure book it was printed on the back of Post Grape Nuts.

[MW1]

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[MW1]

Originally Posted by baldeaglefan

Yes, it does exist. I have one and I know of another collector who has one. According to Dan W. Mabey's Northern Exposure book it was printed on the back of Post Grape Nuts.

Can you post an image of your card?

[MW1]

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[Bestdj777]

MW1,

Thank you for your reply. I am assuming that this card belongs to you? If so, I hope I did not offend you with my assessment of the price. The card is obviously worth whatever someone is willing to pay you for it, and I wish you all the best with your sale.

I am curious as to what makes you think that this is a newly discovered variation though? I've spoken with other collectors on the board with extensive post collections who are certain there are only three variations: 1) 153 hits, 2) 163 hits, 4th time in, and 3) 163 hits, 4th time. I have never seen another "163 hits, 4th time" card apart from the one you have listed. Do you have another that you compared yours to? If so, I would love to see it. The type 3 you linked to, is actually a "153 hits" variation. I believe I messaged the seller to confirm, as it is difficult to distinguish between a 5 and 6 in scans of these cards. Please don't take these comments as offensive or rude, just really trying to nail down what variations actually exist. Before your listing, I was not even 100% convinced a "163 hits, 4th time" variation actually existed.

[MW1]

Bestdj777,

I think you're correct -- it's probably the "c" variation (the eBay listing has been changed to reflect this). I find it curious, however, about the pricing structure in most price guides. The "c" variation, at least in the case of the card I have listed, has a back similar to the other short prints in the Canadian Post series (lighter vs. darker). In all the years I've attended conventions in Canada, it is also the only example I have seen.

[Bestdj777]

Originally Posted by MW1

Bestdj777,

I think you're correct -- it's probably the "c" variation (the eBay listing has been changed to reflect this). I find it curious, however, about the pricing structure in most price guides. The "c" variation, at least in the case of the card I have listed, has a back similar to the other short prints in the Canadian Post series (lighter vs. darker). In all the years I've attended conventions in Canada, it is also the only example I have seen.

It's amazing how difficult that card is to find. When I first started looking, I saw that it was comparably priced and always thought it was be just as easy as the others to locate.