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Old 05-31-2015, 12:59 PM
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I find it somewhat pompous and offensive. So now this Seal and Certificate has to follow this card around after PWCC's stickering, or it will lose it's perceived lofty status? And for what? Because PWCC has determined, without full explanation, that it is a "High End" card? Let the buyer decide that. Also, what if you consign an identical card with PWCC, and you don't get the designation? I think you just might lose some bids to the "High End" card. It could easily slant the auction results.

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Old 05-31-2015, 01:12 PM
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I find it somewhat pompous and offensive. So now this Seal and Certificate has to follow this card around after PWCC's stickering, or it will lose it's perceived lofty status? And for what? Because PWCC has determined, without full explanation, that it is a "High End" card? Let the buyer decide that. Also, what if you consign an identical card with PWCC, and you don't get the designation? I think you just might lose some bids to the "High End" card. It could easily slant the auction results.
I don't think a card is going to have a "lofty status" just because of this PWCC sticker, and if the card is indeed high end, it will never lose that deserved status if this little opinion sticker doesn't follow it around. The card never changes if it's truly high end.

The fact is that a great looking card has its status because of itself, not a sticker-- be it from PSA or PWCC. If Card X is indeed high end and does have this sticker, and the owner throws the sticker out-- the card is still awesome and will always command its due premium.

PSA doesn't give an explanation for their stickers either, it's worth noting.

Even if the cards in question did not have this sticker, if the mass of collectors agree the card is high end, such a card will get more bids than lesser-looking examples of the same card in the same auction.
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Old 05-31-2015, 01:17 PM
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To me it's just a glorified business card
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Great, now if I win a card from them that they decide is high end I have to clean the GDMF sticker crud off the slab.
Ditto. At a minimum, it's annoying.
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Ditto. At a minimum, it's annoying.
Actually, in the CU/PSA thread on this topic, Brent has said that a buyer only has to ask them to remove the sticker before mailing, if that is the request. They will remove it for free before sending it to you. So you don't have to worry about cleaning it off unless you buy it from a middle-man.
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Old 05-31-2015, 03:34 PM
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Actually, in the CU/PSA thread on this topic, Brent has said that a buyer only has to ask them to remove the sticker before mailing, if that is the request. They will remove it for free before sending it to you. So you don't have to worry about cleaning it off unless you buy it from a middle-man.
Fair enough, provided it leaves no residue. Might be nice to include that within their auction description too.
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All stickers will leave residue, no? Unless Teflon now makes one.
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Old 05-31-2015, 04:04 PM
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All stickers will leave residue, no? Unless Teflon now makes one.
He claims it will come off with Goo Gone. So, maybe a trace, but nothing to really worry about.
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All stickers will leave residue, no? Unless Teflon now makes one.
Residue can almost always be removed, in my experiences.
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