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Old 05-07-2008, 02:51 PM
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. This is how to screw up a good deal by talking about it before you have the card in hand.....really very classic. Lesson= never talk about your great deal until you are holding the card in your hand......sad but true .....(leon)

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Looks legit from the scans, who would have this card that would make you wonder if it was real or not??

Prices for these are all over the place some folks pay big bucks and other folks can't stand them....I'd buy this as I like these...so I have a rough idea of price...

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A would say at least a 1000+ maybe even more Jamie, what is the person asking??

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I'll give you 800 right now...no joke

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$300 is a steal ! Nice pick up !

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Nice back! Awesome buy.

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No doubt good buy neat back, enjoy!

Love to meet this seller of your's guys a bit behind the times...

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So I guess this means I can un-bookmark that auction. Sigh. Congrats.

edited to add: the item was no longer listed when I posted that. I wouldn't endanger your coup.

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Jamie: Do you have the card in-hand?

I hope so.

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which auction was it in? not eBay, right?

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Or you can email the seller and offer more Anthony.LOL

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Not my style, John. Though at times I wish it was.

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The auction is indeed gone from Ebay. I was watching it too. Next time I'll know to contact the seller direct. Seller definitely lost $$ as I would have bid higher then $300. Oh well.

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Jamie, some advice: don't post a scan of the card on your website extolling the virtues of this wonderful card. At least not yet.

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"John.. can you tell me what you think its worth then... or at least a fair buying price.. I appreciate your help."

Wow really on eBay and ended early backdoor style, nice touch.

Hey Jamie next time you're looking for an idea of a market value on a card perhaps just post a link to the auction and place a bid then let the auction run its course. Then when it says "blank bidder" won this item for "blank amount" you'll know exactly what it was worth.

Sellers don’t do themselves any favors doing this stuff, in fact Jamie is asking for a fair buying price the ironic thing is he paid the seller a far from a fair price or at least it was fair to Jamie and not to the seller.

Love to have a link, perhaps I can get a late bid in..LOL

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"Jamie, some advice: don't post a scan of the card on your website extolling the virtues of this wonderful card. At least not yet."

Lichtman, that's funny!

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Jeff - what ever came of that Johnson? Was the seller legit? Did he end up keeping it?

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I am laughing. Truer words were never spoken....regads (said in NE accent)

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Matt, that wasn't my Johnson; from what I remember the seller was legit as was the card. Not sure about the autograph, though.

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Jeff - I know it wasn't yours; I just recall the seller had a weird habit of starting and stopping listings multiple times and some other fishy stuff went on including the Johnson episode. Curious where the card is now.

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Yeah, I'm not sure if the card was ever sold. I remmeber the seller having a strong desire for the card to be appropriately exhibited. Perhaps it made its way to a museum like the one Bruce mentioned in NYC. Or to the HOF. Or to the collection of someone who offered to pay more. Either one.

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Ebay should just allow graded cards only in its auctions at this point. There is so much repro junk on there it's a joke.

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...the actual location of the signed T206 Johnson card to almost anyone that e-mails me at SignedT206@gmail.com.

edited to add: Given the inquiries I've received so far, guess I should add that the card can be viewed with the permission of the owner at www.T206Collector.com.

If you click Signed T206 Wantlist, you can see all the signed T206 cards I've seen that I do not currently own.

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“he told me he was going to get the card graded and relist.. I asked him how much to buy the card out right.. he said 300... I then posted the thread about is the card real and how much would it be worth...The auction was well over at this point and he did not end it early because of me... once I heard its worth well over 300 I sent paypal to seller and he explained my card has shipped out already...”

“Just didnt want people to think that I had the guy end it early to stop him from getting a higher price than what he thought it would go for... “


Jamie; good enough but come on guy just admit you swopped a nice deal; don’t paint yourself with the innocent brush.

Be proud you got a great card for a steal, and you certainly didn’t clue the seller in on this, and the last thing you would have wanted to happen was have this relisted graded. You also have posted this back and card twice in two different threads on this board plugging for answers…you got the answer you were looking for worth a lot more than he was asking and a lot less than you would have had to pay if the seller listed the card again graded.

End of story take it for what it is no need to spin it. Nobody ever just says beat you too it suckers, it's always some story of why they’re not a bad guy and it was just a lucky circumstance or it was the collectors wish as to why the auction ended and the item didn’t get relisted for those who were watching the auction. I wish once someone would just come clean and just blow raspberries in our faces and say haha beat you to it that would be refreshing at least.

I’ll keep an eye out on the BST for it Jamie, congrats!

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Right Jamie…

Is that before or after you asked everyone on here for friendly advice, second if you wanted to bid and win, you would have bid when he relisted lets be honest.

But you managed to work a side deal good for you. You also managed to out an auction for a few collectors who were watching. No I wouldn’t offer more money per say but I also wouldn’t rip anyone off, or post bragging about it either let alone spin it for anything other than what it was.

You’re right Jamie I wouldn’t do what you did I would have the balls to call it what it was highway robbery via wonkaticket. I would also have the common sense enough not to post on an open forum before the card was in my hand.

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Jamie,
Are you sure you're getting the card? I had e-mailed him earlier in the week to tell him to not end the auction early, he said he wouldn't. After the auction disappeared today, I contacted him about a sale (told him to name his price, I offered $500+), and he told me he was getting it graded. After noticing this post I just contacted him and he said it's being graded.

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i also vote to do away with the edit feature...we're missing out with people constantly editing

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It's usually about you, Quan.

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Rthr thn dltng my cmplt pst, 'm remvng nly th vwls.

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This thread was like the login name ....blunder.

I agree with not being able to edit posts to certain degree.

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If definately looks even worse Jamie to have deleted all your posts. I didn't click on this until this morning but can still tell what went on....why even bother to delete your posts now? Because you took some heat?

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Blunder- why did you edit out all your posts on a thread that has a lively discussion going on?

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I believe this is what we call "a learning lesson".....

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"I believe this is what we call "a learning lesson"....."

perhaps we can change our terminology to blunder20

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Okay, I will assume his deal fell through because he posted it on the board. Of course you want to have the card in hand before you talk about it. I think they teach that in Collecting 101.

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All I know is, I originally contacted the buyer on May 3rd asking him if he had a buy it now price, and if not to not end the auction early or at least let me make an offer if he is. Around 3:30 my time yesterday (which is 4:30 board time) I noticed the Young was missing in my watched items (not sure when it was pulled), I contacted the buyer and asked what happened and he said something along the lines that eBay added it to a list of cards that have to be graded and he was getting graded. I replied and asked if he just wanted to sell it...I assume he was talking to Jamie at this point, and he said he was getting it GRADED.

Off to do yard work and drink a few beers, I came in last night (around 9 pm my time) and noticed this thread, I again contacted the seller and asked if it's being graded or he sold it. He responded that it should be back up from grading in two weeks.

I was just more confused that anything, Jamie saying the card was already shipped and this guy saying it's being graded.

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I'm slow at understanding these things, but I think I've realized what happened.

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I still don't know exactly what the card was....a T206 Young? Is there more to it than just a T206 Young?

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the back was very off center, and it was on eBay for several days with very little bidding going on, for as freakish as it was.

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This is a rare turn... We're all brothers in this hobby. It's rare that another will undermine your good deal, again.

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Steve, wrong again.

Beat you to it, sucker!

(Sorry, just saw that in John's post and wanted to say it)

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